Interesting scenario, pleasure flights (Public transport) in most singles out of there may be illegal due TODA/LDA and that could be a pilot with a professional licence and a couple of thousand hours but a student with 1 hour P1 in the same aircraft OK!

Roll on EASA

Illegal? Like how?

UK AIP for Nethers:

a) Aerodrome is not available for public transport passenger flights required to use a licensed aerodrome

b) PPR may be refused to certain aircraft types. Inexperienced pilots are to phone for advice before arriving at Netherthorpe and are to contact a member of staff for a short briefing before departure

Having said that, we have over fifty aircraft based at Nethers, including more complex types such as commanches and an apache twin. We have also just had the regular CAA inspection with no problems.

Come and pay us a visit, folks - great place to brush up on your short/soft field techniques and a top notch clubhouse in which to watch the comings/goings whilst enjoying your bacon butty (or huge sunday lunch).:ok:

Camaro

Excellent advice and a pity some (who are on here) cannot learn the lesson that just because you have a licence dosnt mean you do not need advice with authorisation.

Coming to see you soon, by road!

llanfairpg

You will be most welcome - however you wish to get to us! :)

Thank you very much--I might even need a briefing before coming by car!

llanfairpg

You actually might need a briefing, Netherthorpe is a bu**er to find by road if you don't know where you are going!:O

...and a b****r to find by air too - even if you know it's there!

I trained with Phoenix at Netherthorpe as well as an IMC and the still CFI does my IMC renewals even though I now fly from a long strip of tarmac 10 nms away. They're a top bunch and the instructors were universally professional, competent and friendly. I recently saw one of my former instructors instructing at SAC and there has been movement in both directions over the years. Other than price I don't think there's anything to choose between the two and Phoenix must be among the cheapest hourly rates in the counrty. Most Phoenix Flyers are social member of SAC (at much lower cost than flying members), which gives them access to the club house, but there was always free tea and coffee (albeit in scummy cups) at Phoenix.

Basically, which school you use will be a personal choice and both are good and both will teach you proper short field technique which you will never learn properly on a long tarmac runway.

Grass field, but underlain by sandy soil, so rarely waterlogged. 24 is 3 deg uphill, so all the water's at the bottom in any event:}

In my day we used 150s, like real men. None of this 'guarantee to get you over the hedge nancy 130 hp Aerobat' nonsense. Where's the thrill in knowing on every take-off that you aren't going to crash?

But seriously, the Aerobats are great little trainers (extremely well maintained in-house) and you can learn basic aerobatics if you like. It's mainly been visiting aircraft through the hedge with pilots who simply didn't do the maths on a hot and high day. I think the rare Phoenix accidents have all been on landing - either your usual student drop-in or (on the occasion the much loved Sierra Lima came to grief) following an engine failure in the circuit when the FI just managed to get on to the field.

Try Netherthorpe and enjoy whichever school you use.

24R

Yes, but do try to avoid that nice little village to the east if you're climbing out on 06 early on a Sunday morning. Some residents do appreciate a bit of a quiet lie in :p

480 m is far too long for proper aircraft. Even 36 /18, too. :E

I was thinking of Netherthorpe but Im leaning towards Sherburn now.

Netherthorpe is closer I think, didnt realise there was a choice on training either at Netherthorpe.

Liam

Sherbs is a very nice airfield and clubhouse, but why not use your equally nice local club?

Use it or lose it! ;)