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St. Helier 3rd July 2007 19:47

What To Wear When Flying!!!!
 
Hi All,

Sounds a bit of a daft question!! but, what would be the ideal clothing be when piloting a private aircraft, I.e PA28 e.c.t?

I have always known some people just wear what they want, like what you wear everyday, but I have heard that some people have a tradition, and a sense of proffesionalism when taking passengers to wear a shirt and tie, not necassarly white shirt and black tie, but it shows the passengers that you have a sense of proffesionalism and pride in what you do in your spare time.

I personally would prefer to wear a smart shirt and tie, but maybe im old fasioned

I welcome anyones views on this?

Whirlygig 3rd July 2007 19:51

I'd feel a tad unsettled if I saw a pilot wearing a black tie :}

I wear sensible boots (jodphur boots), gloves, jeans and a high-necked top (i.e. polo/turtle neck) so that the harness doesn't rub the back of my neck. My passengers are either family or friends and they know how I dress so I don't see the point in pretending to be someting I'm not.

However, one always wears ones make-up, has ones nails done and looks totally gorgeous and glam!! ;):p:ok:

Cheers

Whirls

Gertrude the Wombat 3rd July 2007 19:57

After being careful to change into shoes for the first several lessons I eventually learned that I could actually fly wearing sandals.

I've never had any trouble with getting them caught under the rudder pedals (as has happened with the pedals in the car occasionally).

St. Helier 3rd July 2007 19:58

Yes very helpfull thank you!! http://www.pprune.org/forums/images/icons/umph.gif


I didnt meen wearing a black tie, i ment just a shirt and tie



St. Helier

St. Helier 3rd July 2007 20:03

Is there any other old codger out there who agress with me or actualy wears shirt or shirt with a tie (not a white shirt and black tie!!)

Regards

St. Helier

J.A.F.O. 3rd July 2007 20:08

Oh, I love this topic and there are loads of variations on the theme we can go for whether to wear gloves, if so which ones; are your shoes fireproof; do you wear a helmet; what about a grobag; and that's before we even get onto epaulettes.

I did toy with acting dumb - many would say it's not an act - and post a question about how many stripes for a PPL, CPL, etc.

Me, at work I wear what they give me and for fun I try to be comfortable and safe that means cotton and leather in whatever combination takes your fancy, I always mean to wear a long sleeved shirt but generally forget and I have Western Europes largest collection of unused flying gloves.

So, keep it going folks, always a favourite.

foxmoth 3rd July 2007 20:17

Not so much what to wear as what not to wear, flying vintage or aeros I will normally wear a flying suit, with or without leather jacket depending on wx and closed or open cockpit - though best is open cockpit in hot wx with non radio field when you can fly in just trousers and t-shirt. Other than this it is a case of ensuring that you do not have nylon or similar man made fabric on that will be a problem in a fire. As far as ties go to make you look pro - most professional pilots wear the tie until they get in the cockpit (flight deck), then they take it off.:cool:

St. Helier 3rd July 2007 20:19

We are very near to getting an answer!! haha:ugh:

I say again, with a PPL and/or taking passengers, wether they be family, friend or foe, or even taking someone on a business trip.

would anyone here wear a shirt and tie to show a sense of proffesionalism and smartness about yourself,

As I am soon to become an officer Royal Marines Reserve that is probably why I do it!!!:ok:

maxdrypower 3rd July 2007 20:20

Initially I used to wear a flying suit (yeh a real one) Reason being a friend of mine was flying a PA-28 in Cypurs when he had an on board fire . He was dressed as any pilot in cyprus would be , sandals shorts and T-shirt . The fire originated from under the instrument panel . He sustained major burns to his legs and hands prior to his passenger extinguishing the flames with the fire ext. This scared me somewhat. Although I have never heard this happening anywhere else since but you just never know. No one will ever know whther or not wearing nomex would have prevented these burns , at the end of the day wearing jeans might have prevented the injuries from being so bad . But who knows ? A lot of people take the pixx out of those who choose to wear flying suits for GA , but at the end of day flames are flames . The military have been wearing them for yrs , Robinson helis are now recommending pilots wear helmets , The police now wear flying suits and helmets in helicopters , all this is as a result of injuries and fatalities that may have been prevented if this clothing had been worn .
Well thats another take on it I suppose.
Speaking as an ex military officer , ties are for the mess ,when you do the job your paid to do you will not be wearing a tie and believe me you will still be professional

3FallinFlyer 3rd July 2007 20:24

Well I fly for work a lot and I usually have to wear a suit, shirt & tie for work.... But I can't stand wearing them for flying, I usually wear casual clothes, cotton t-shirt, jeans or shorts, trainers etc depending on time of year & then get changed into my work gear at the other end and changed again before I come back. I think the most important thing is to feel comfortable in what you wear for flying.

wsmempson 3rd July 2007 21:54

A posing pouch and a big grin?

Chilli Monster 3rd July 2007 22:29


Originally Posted by St Helier.
I say again, with a PPL and/or taking passengers, wether they be family, friend or foe, or even taking someone on a business trip.

would anyone here wear a shirt and tie to show a sense of proffesionalism and smartness about yourself,

NO - I don't even wear a tie to work for gods sake!

Comfort is the priority - wear what makes you feel comfortable. Your passengers will be more impressed by the smoothness and the professional "attitude" you have to your flying than by the way you dress. If you need clothes to express that rather than personality and attitude something is seriously wrong.

Whirlygig 3rd July 2007 22:36


We are very near to getting an answer!! haha:ugh:

I say again, with a PPL and/or taking passengers, wether they be family, friend or foe, or even taking someone on a business trip.

would anyone here wear a shirt and tie to show a sense of proffesionalism and smartness about yourself,

And I say again ..... No I don't wear such stuff. When you say you are getting near an answer, did you mean an answer you liked?

I have to dress smartly for my day job, very smartly. So I don't want to ruin my Jaeger suits and Windsmoor blouses doing the Check A.

I would like to think any professionalism I have when flying (as a private pilot) is shown in the manner in which I conduct myself and brief my passengers.

As a commercial pilot, well - it's a uniform.

Cheers

Whirls

Cusco 3rd July 2007 23:38

I personally, being an old codger by your definition (going from your previous posts you are a 17 year old schoolboy/spotter) would never leave the ground unless clad solely in a bowler hat and jock strap.
Mind you, if it's very hot, I leave the jock strap off but I make sure my pax are fully aware of my status by wearing four gold bars velcro'd to my todger.
What do you wear when you go flying Mr Helier?
Or should I call you 'Your Holiness'?
Safe (and comfortable) flying
Cusco;);)

Chilli Monster 4th July 2007 00:08


I personally, being an old codger by your definition ..........would never leave the ground unless clad solely in a bowler hat and jock strap.
Mind you, if it's very hot, I leave the jock strap off
Now there's a vision that'll go with me to the grave - with several sleepness nights inbetween!

UncleNobby 4th July 2007 02:25

Shades, shorts, t-shirt and adidas sneakers (over 90 degrees Far out here most days!)
Whatever makes you comfortable.

Final 3 Greens 4th July 2007 04:50

St Helier

You sound like a *****,

Fill in the asterisks to suit, 'troll' would fit, for example.

BEagle 4th July 2007 06:10

St Helier, personally I recommend a uniform to make it clear that you are the authorised aircraft commander.

But a shirt and tie simply makes you look like a Dixons' sales assistant.

No, what you need is a dark blue uniform with gold buttons, suitable neck covering and, of course, proper rank badges and shoulder devices....

Something like this is usually adequate:


You should also consider a proper flying helmet. You can get an adaptor and outer shell to fit to a DC headset, but that offers little in the way of protection. Something like this is far more suitable:


As for footwear, just use your normal PVC thigh length fetish boots - but don't bother with the fishnet tights until you join the Royals. If you get some pink marigolds to wear as flying gloves, you can also use them in your Marine initiation cermony with a surgical mask.....

:p

BroomstickPilot 4th July 2007 06:16

What not to wear
 
Hi St Helier,

What you wear depends on what you fly, how often and for what purpose.

If you only fly a Pa28 for ten hours per year then just wear your street clothes, perhaps with the addition of a baseball cap, sun glasses and gloves.

If you fly as a diver driver / meat bomber for a sky-diving club, then you have to dress on the assumption that you will be climbing to 15,000' with the door removed and in the event of mishap you just might have to exit the aircraft mid-air and take to the silk! That's when you need a bone dome and a loose grow bag with plenty of room for extra layers of clothing underneath.

I once saw a vintage Cub in which the fuel tank looked like a tin can just above the front seat occupant's shins. Again, if you only fly a few hours annually, it probably doesn't matter what you wear, but if you fly alot, then, I would submit, you would be wise to wear only non-combustible clothing, i.e. a Nomex II grow-bag with underwear made of the same stuff, (all this is available but it costs).

(Nomex and Proban won't protect you from being burned, but neither will they melt onto your skin and ignite! You'll still be burned, but your injuries will be much less severe).

Consider your flying and then decide what you need to wear and ignore the sneers of the stupid and the ignorant.

Broomstick.

Captain Smithy 4th July 2007 06:30

I usually wear jeans and a sweatshirt for my flying, which is in a spamcan. Would consider overalls if I were in something open and draughty though, or doing aeros (plenty of pockets, see).

Chilli Monster 4th July 2007 08:35


perhaps with the addition of a baseball cap
On a serious note - a read of the latest GASIL suggests this isn't such a good idea due to reduced upwards peripheral vision. I tried once, found the peak very distracting for this very reason and have never worn one since.

englishal 4th July 2007 09:01

Wear whatever you're comfortable in.

This time of year, Jeans and T shirt or shorts and T shirt for me.

I believe it is tradition in the USA, for female pilots on passing the GFT to do the first flight topless. This is a tradition I think we should bring to the UK :}

IO540 4th July 2007 09:23

Englishal is the only one to have got the right answer.

Dave Gittins 4th July 2007 11:23

If I'm actually doing the driving, I just wear whatever I normally would. If I'm SLF though, I have a particularly old pullover with Dan-Air on the left breast which I favour.

As I can normally truthfully say I have been commanding air borne machines for longer than the captain of said 777 or whatever, it gives me something of a feeling of superiority.

Sad really.

Wessex Boy 4th July 2007 11:38

I wear my old RAF issue Flying Boots, Fat-Face trousers (cotton with pockets in the same place as a gro-bag) and a cotton polo shirt.
Comfy, practical and with some fire retardancy. Also I don't scare the Pax into feeling under-dressed

J.A.F.O. 4th July 2007 12:16

See, I told you it was fun.


a sense of proffesionalism
Often the best way to appear professional is to learn how to spell it.

I personally like Beagle's suggestion and shall adopt it as soon as my VP2 becomes airworthy - one needs an open cockpit to do that attire justice.

Lister Noble 4th July 2007 12:43

St Helier,
Ask your FI if you try his or her gear on in front of a mirror, and see how you feel,if you get my meaning.
A Proban jump suit would look good,not be too expensive and could save you from bad carpet burns.
But I'm sure you would be great in a PA28 whatever you choose.
:}

microlight AV8R 4th July 2007 14:36

Another suggestion...
 
Pop across to Ebay and take a look at Item number: 260134475028 :cool:

Would appreciate feedback from you folks regarding whether this is suitable attire for low levelinterdiction missions in my Rans S6 ? ;)

snapper41 4th July 2007 14:46

Baseball Caps
 

Originally Posted by Chilli Monster (Post 3392642)
On a serious note - a read of the latest GASIL suggests this isn't such a good idea due to reduced upwards peripheral vision. I tried once, found the peak very distracting for this very reason and have never worn one since.

You could always try reversing the cap, especially if it has a Burberry pattern. I understand this 'look' is very popular with younger people :hmm:

Final 3 Greens 4th July 2007 14:50

Only if combined with ref 260134475028

Chilli Monster 4th July 2007 15:10


You could always try reversing the cap, especially if it has a Burberry pattern. I understand this 'look' is very popular with younger people
1) Would interfere with the headrest

2) Makes wearing it a pointless exercise ;)

3) You just look a tw@t (Is this why Chav and C**t have the same number of letters :) )

snapper41 4th July 2007 15:18

Irony - it's just wasted, isn't it?!

S-Works 4th July 2007 15:19

I prefer, stockings and a mini skirt. Oh hang on I misread the title, when flying........

maxdrypower 4th July 2007 17:05

AV8r , I think that should be worn with Bose-x's chosen attire whilst leaping onto some nubile wench from atop the wardrobe screammingggg banzai !!!!

microlight AV8R 4th July 2007 17:17

MaxDry

Well, you don't think I'd wear for flying do you ? ;)

maxdrypower 4th July 2007 17:20

No No No thought never entered my head

davidatter708 4th July 2007 17:44

Rofl BEagle. I have often thought about buying an RAF helmet and using it in a cessna. Not just because I think they are awesome but are expensive as a decent headset and have 2 types of sunglasses and if u get a bit breathless open the window and stick the breathing nozzle out. But how practical would it be? anyone out there do it or thought about it? The other thing do you think my flying club would giuve me a bit of stick or not
David

J.A.F.O. 4th July 2007 20:18

David

What does rofl mean?

Don't listen to anyone who gives you stick, if that's what you feel comfortable in then you go for it; perhaps eBay item 260134961839 could be supplied for passengers so that your attire didn't make them feel nervous.

The only problem with the full helmet is that it can make 190128821344 difficult to wear but you can always combine them with 110145058189 when safely back on terra firma.

maxdrypower 4th July 2007 20:26

J.A.F its text speak means rolling on the floor laughing

J.A.F.O. 4th July 2007 20:33

Thanks Max - my daughters show me how to send a text message every now and then but I am not particularly competent - my mobile telephone tries to guess what you want to say next and so SHALL WE MEET AT THE THEATRE always seems to be SHORT WIFE MAKES A TEA TRAY and, while that might be factual, it doesn't quite sum up what I intended to say.

HHWLAL.

;)

That's Hey ho, we live and learn


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