I was not denying this, in fact any pilot who thinks he has nothing to learn from others is a liability.......

My comments were aimed at the new fATPL people who think that having an ATPL despite there total lack of flying experiance makes them superior to everyone else and that it gives them the right to call themselves "big boys". A fact that we come accross time and time again sadly.

One of the reasons I originally went off to do the CPL/IR was to prove anyone with time on there hands can do it!

:p :O :cool:

...and money....:(

yep and that of course. :O

Which is also why it still amazes me that people go off and get themselves into debt when there is no work and a dearth of others all out there in the same position. And we expect our airline bus drivers to show good judgement and not take risks!!

:p


Don't get me wrong, despite what it seems I have nothing against the wannabees. I just don't like the way a lot of them treat the dirty unwashed because they think they are better just because they have a little green folder.:O

bose-x, is that something you see happening here in this virtual world, or do you see it in your flying club or where?

there is a fair amount of it here in our virtual world but significantly more in the "real world".

Its one of those things I notice a lot in the various clubs that I frequent.

How do you know an ATPL holder in a crowded room? Because they tell you!!!

Dig deeper and you find someone with a fATPL and a couple of hundred hours who thinks because they understand jet power plants, airconditioning units etc that they are expert flyers.

Point of Order.........it's a little blue folder until you "unfreeze" the ATPL (and get a little green folder), by which time you have at least 1500 hours.

good point well made and conceded!

:D

So c-bert, have we answered your questions?

Do you think you will do an IMC rating?

Lol, yeah my question has been answered several times over thanks. I think I'll follow one of the first pieces of advice, which was get a few hours under my belt and then tackle it. Not sure what capacity I will use it yet, but actually training for it should improve the quality and precision of my flying if nothing else.

Never thought such a simple question would end up in a 5 page thread! :D