What would this be classified as?
Just wondering what this would likely be classified as once the development is sorted. Microlight, micro-helicopter? Or would the authorities just run away screaming?
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Originally Posted by Tech Guy
(Post 10829043)
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EASA would consider this a powered lift aircraft:
‘Powered-lift aircraft’ means any aircraft deriving vertical lift and in flight propulsion/lift from variable geometry rotors or engines/propulsive devices attached to or contained within the fuselage or wings. |
It looks like it broadly fits the powered lift category but the essential problem for the regulator is how do you assess its fitness for flight. What criteria do you use to determine airworthiness ? The same problem applies to the pilot, how do you determine that they have adequate skills to fly safely ?
When one of these crashes into somebodies house you know fingers are going to be immediately pointed at the regulator. Ironically the certification oversight issues that contributed to the 737 MAX fiasco are in comparison easy to fix. |
I would classify it as a mincer.
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In the video blurb it says: "Being able to move through the air so effortlessly without vibrations or noise".
Well I'm half deaf and I thought it pretty noisy. So what would this be classified as? A public nuisance, IMO. Aircraft with wings are elegant. These are the polar opposite of elegant. I don't like them at all! |
Surely it would count as an SSDR?
In Britain at least - A single seat microlight (SSDR) is now defined as an aircraft which: a) Is designed to carry one person; b) Has a maximum take-off mass of no more than: i. 300 kg for a single seat landplane (or 390 kg for a single seat landplane of which 51% was built by an amateur, or non-profit making association of amateurs, for their own purposes and without any commercial objective, in respect of which a Permit to Fly issued by the CAA was in force prior to 1 January 2003); or ii. 315 kg for a single seat landplane equipped with an airframe mounted total recovering parachute system; or iii. 330 kg for a single seat amphibian or floatplane; and c) Has a stall speed or minimum steady flight speed in the landing configuration not exceeding 35 knots calibrated airspeed. |
With all this strange hype on flying drones, I still hope anything carrying people will fall under the pilot license regime!
It is proven, it works and it keeps the extreme idiots and incapable ones in cars on the ground ... |
It will be classified as whatever it is certified for. It is for the requester to state in what category certification is sought, then it is for authorities to grant said certification, or not. So perhaps the question had better be "what could this be certified as?". The answer to that must depend on national regulations, seeing the contraption is most likely sub-ICAO.
In France it might stand a fair chance as an ultralight helicopter, and perhaps in more countries. No idea about the UK, though. SSDR sounds like a possibility. |
And if it were foot launched?
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I don't know how this aircraft would be classified in Italy, where it lives, but in the U.S., it would be generally classed as a rotorcraft-helicopter. I'm sure that other sub classes would be applied, such as ultra light, multi-engine (motor?), land, etc., but I have no idea as to its ultimate classification. Whatever class it would fit into, the subject helicopter appears to have been well designed and well built; however, I think that I'd come up with a better method of securing the transmitter than just a neck strap. The pilot would be in a bit of a pickle if he dropped his transmitter.
It looks like the control system is typical of R/C (Radio-Controlled) multi-rotor "drones", only applied to a much larger, man-carrying aircraft. If that is the case, the programming would include such automatic features as "return to home", auto stability etc., which would enhance safety. The control system, being "fly-by-wireless", could be susceptible to sophisticated jamming techniques Regardless of its possible classification, it looks like a lot of fun, requiring little more skill than driving the average automobile. Finally, a "flying car" for "Everyman"! I foresee swarms of these craft clogging our highways, byways and skyways in the near future ... it could be entertaining.:rolleyes: Cheers, Grog |
What would this be classified as? |
Originally Posted by ShyTorque
(Post 10829727)
It's certainly no glider. Engine out performance? :uhoh:
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Dangerous.....
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Bloody dangerous (I suppose the proper term is high risk) .... fine until one of the engines stops or one of the propellers falls off. At least most "proper" flying machines can be safely landed after an engine failure.
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Originally Posted by Dave Gittins
(Post 10830355)
Bloody dangerous (I suppose the proper term is high risk) .... fine until one of the engines stops or one of the propellers falls off. At least most "proper" flying machines can be safely landed after an engine failure.
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Radio controlled man carrying multi rotor helicopter
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Originally Posted by Dave Gittins
(Post 10830355)
Bloody dangerous (I suppose the proper term is high risk) .... fine until one of the engines stops or one of the propellers falls off. At least most "proper" flying machines can be safely landed after an engine failure.
If you were really worried you could fit a BRS (or parasail)... |
Well, not a drone because someone is sitting in it flying. EVM's..Electric VTOL Multi-rotor's...
I wouldn't be too quick to knock the technology. Fifteen years or so, advanced versions of these could easily be the norm. |
Unless I have missed something, "drones" became so prevalent and presumably potentially dangerous that the AAIB were made responsible for looking at the reasons so many crashed. Having read some of the reports, "redundancy," "reliability and "safety" are not words that jump off the pages.
I think FullWings has the best idea huge (expensive) redundancy or a BRS. Even better two of them. :E |
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