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mary meagher 1st Jul 2015 20:18

Hot, hot, hot!
 
Been working out your density altitude any time this week?

In weather like we've been having lately, one is grateful for high wing types with wide open doors....Reminds me of flying in Florida and getting sunbaked in a poorly fenestrated Piper....all that money and no air conditioning.

piperboy84 1st Jul 2015 20:45

Was flying last night with the windows open and no headsets, noisey but nice.

Heebicka 2nd Jul 2015 13:17

did flight today at noon with 152, reasonable 17C @ 4000ft :)

foxmoth 2nd Jul 2015 14:21

This is when you want to be flying a Moth in a Tshirt and shorts and no headset!:ok:

CISTRS 2nd Jul 2015 15:47

So sad we have lost this...


http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9mzlxjtj.gif

RatherBeFlying 2nd Jul 2015 16:57

Got off the winch last weekend on a 32C day. It was baking under the canopy. Maybe I should leave mine off like the folks above:}

India Four Two 3rd Jul 2015 01:45

It's been been hot in Western Canada too. At my gliding club's airfield in Alberta (Black Diamond CEH2), the elevation is 3700'. Once the temperature exceeds 30° C, we implement a progressively decreasing gross weight limit for the club's two-seaters.

We've recently had density altitudes in excess of 7000'. I know that's not high by Colorado standards, but it's high enough to make our 180 HP Scout run out of steam.

FleetFlyer 3rd Jul 2015 13:33

Funnily enough I have been working out density altitudes this week. I'm involved with the F1 air racing crowd and we had two races last month, one in Tunisia and one in Spain. It was very hot in Spain, about 40 degrees, so when giving out the results, I calculated the density altitude for the Spanish race this year vs the Spanish race last year. It was 4100 feet this year vs 2000 feet the year before.

There has long been a debate about whether the guys at Reno fly faster because they are in thinner air, or slower because their engines don't get as much. The results for Spain showed a 3 mph gain per 1000' increase in altitude. This only seemed to apply to the cleaner airframes, with little to be gained by the stock slab wing Cassutts.

This would put the gold race winner at Reno at about 264 mph total race speed(average speed over 8 laps). I'm looking forward to finding out if this prediction is accurate. The current single lap course record is 267 mph.

MarkerInbound 4th Jul 2015 06:06


There has long been a debate about whether the guys at Reno fly faster because they are in thinner air, or slower because their engines don't get as much.
They're pushing 100 inches of manifold pressure. Hard to say the engine isn't getting enough air.

ShyTorque 4th Jul 2015 06:30

It's been terrible weather...had to reach up and turn the aircon to minimum!

Pace 5th Jul 2015 12:36

Hottest I ever saw and the limits on a Citation was 52 C in Seville.

Luckily I wasn't flying but on holiday. Leaving the air-conditioned Hotel was like stepping into an oven and took your breath away

Pace

FleetFlyer 6th Jul 2015 08:46

MI, I think you might be confusing the F1 aeroplanes at Reno with the Unlimiteds. The big difference being that the F1 class runs unsupercharged 0-200s rather than supercharged WW2 fighter engines.

Some of the F1 planes are achieving positive manifold pressure via very clever intake design, but there is still no way a non-supercharged engine will make as much power at 5000' as it does at sea level.


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