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Mikeod 9th Oct 2014 16:13

Even without the airport terminal traffic Blackpool can be a busy place, especially on a sunny weekend. Not even having a/g radio wouldn't work.

milhouse999 9th Oct 2014 18:31

Jet 2 were going to operate out of Blackpool as normal until the end of today then everything will be diverted to and from Manchester, instead of waiting until the 15th.

However whilst mid-air it appears the 9PM arrival into Blackpool by Jet 2 from Alicante has been diverted to Manchester, with an announcement on the Jet 2 website. Other sites still show it due in to BLK at 2100hrs.

Maybe the owners have gone in and booted out all the staff ahead of schedule, or they've all walked out.

fisbangwollop 9th Oct 2014 20:45

I have two major gripes with Balfour Beatty. Firstly it was through Blackpool airport that my interest and subsequent aviation career kicked off some 42 years ago.
Secondly having a rather large holding of Balfour Beatty shares I am somewhat distressed that only a few weeks back the Board of Directors of BB turned down a rather lucrative takeover deal from Clarrilion only a few days later to issue a profits warning! I reckon every single member of the BB board should hang from Blackpool tower by their testicles........sadly though they have proved from recent actions they don't have any!!!

EGNH_Flyboy 13th Oct 2014 19:06

Blackpool Airport closure: BAE Systems offers to help aviation operators
 
BBC News - Blackpool Airport closure: BAE Systems offers to help aviation operators

soay 14th Oct 2014 06:39

Please sign this petition to save Blackpool Airport:

https://submissions.epetitions.direc...etitions/70619

Johnm 14th Oct 2014 07:18

Sadly I think Blackpool airport failed because it employed 110 people, there's no way to provide funded work for that many people in a GA regional airport. The need to have ATC on site to run CAT in the UK is a big problem that needs fixing through the red tape challenge work. Nonetheless I reckon a deal with Warton for ATC and say 4 FISOs on the field would be more than enough. Then 7 firemen or so, some support staff who can also do security and you could run the whole operation with less than 30 people.

mad_jock 14th Oct 2014 08:37

You need more than fiso but radar from warton would work.

There is no way you would get the numbers down to 30 the security empire would require that just to move 1pax.

From my limited dealings with operating in there they need to have a clear out of the dinosaurs anyway so I suspect CAT will be gone for a year at least. Once all the TUPE issues are gone they may then be able to be born again.

BAe have an interest in keeping the tarmac available so close but if the cost is to much i don't know.

NorthSouth 14th Oct 2014 13:38


BAe have an interest in keeping the tarmac available so close
Hmm, but at only 1800m or so LDA and with no arrestor cables it's probably not good enough for a lot of the potential divert scenarios e.g. high weight flapless Typhoon. They probs use Valley. And anyway, would BAe pay for it? Seems doubtful. Unlike the RAF, which is happy to pay for keeping full facilities open at both Kinloss and Leuchars for Typhoon diverts after their "closure".

mad_jock 14th Oct 2014 14:26

I don't know but for cat ops it would be no problem.

We shall see what happens a bit like norwich there has been years of history and dinosaur procedures stopping anything happening.

Now if they choose its a clean slate. Any airport which starts raping pax in the departure lounge for a development fee is on borrowed time anyway in my opinion. Its just giving chemo to someone who already has secondary cancers.

flyalotbob 14th Oct 2014 14:31

The whole of the airport not just the terminal is closing tomorrow evening. No date as to when its reopening :=

Shaggy Sheep Driver 14th Oct 2014 15:03

Very sad from an aviation history point of view alone. Blackpool was very 'go ahead' in the days of early aviation, sponsoring flying pageants in 1909 and 1910, the latter being on the Squire's Gate site.

It's a great pity if 'dinosauritis' has killed it. I used to enjoy flying in there in happy days when you paid your (very reasonable) landing fee to the bloke in the fire station office, then out through the side gate and away.

mad_jock 14th Oct 2014 15:56

There is 4 people in the terminal I am more than happy I will never have to be subjected to having to deal with again.

If even 5% of the antics i have heard of that have gone on there are true there will be more than a few breathing a sigh of relief its shutting.

Hopefully it will open again after a period with all the dead wood gone and some of the rotten pruned. You need to get rid of the idiots that bring the whole place down.

Mikeod 14th Oct 2014 16:42

Love this; 'Blackpool Council’s cabinet member for highways and transport, Cllr John Jones is blaming Jet2 for the closure of Blackpool airport'

Has everybody forgotten until recently Ryanair used to operate from Blackpool. And why did they completly abandon Blackpool, because of an airport development fee introduced by Balfour Beatty, an extra £10 pp.

It's the idiot/s that introduced the airport development fee that has led to this.

Balfour Beatty want land to build on. Only if they sell the airport land to a buyer who knows and wants to make money by running an airport, only then will egnh be secure.

no slots 14th Oct 2014 18:24

Plenty happening at Norwich.Plenty of dinosaurs( and very popular ) down the road at the Dinosaur Park. Not seen any on the airport for a few million years now!!!
Anyway, this is a Blackpool forum. The 2 don't begin to compare!:mad:

mad_jock 14th Oct 2014 18:37

True for a start blackpools runways and taxiways arn't breaking up.

And you should talk to the bird running the front house pax services and the idiots in security in Norwich to talk to the local dinosaurs.


The idea though that norwich will be anything but a constant battle to make ends meet is fantasy. Eventually they won't be able to put off the major infrastructure renewal thats required there and that will be it.

Cows getting bigger 14th Oct 2014 20:12

I flew into Blackpool about two weeks ago. ATC etc were helpful but we had to wait about 45 mins for fuel (there were no other aircraft on the move) and a friendly airfield tels girl told us that it was pointless trying to get through security to grab a sandwich, we would be better-off starving.

In many ways, no different from most regional airports.

mad_jock 14th Oct 2014 23:07

I think they used the same security consultant that Norwich did.

Utter idiots of the, I am taking your sandwich because butter can melt producing a liquid mentality. And no you can't put it in a liquid bag and put it through because its not in a bottle with a size on it.

fwjc 15th Oct 2014 00:13

Sure you're not confusing Norwich with Southend? It might be ridiculously expensive, but handling at Saxonair is a pleasure, while Southend is a run-down hovel with under-paid over-zealous security, a GA apron that looks more like a gravel driveway and taxiways that look like they've survived a minor air attack, but only just. They are redeemed only by certain staff who are professional, friendly and helpful.
Blackpool was tatty last time I was there. I've visited all three within the last month, and a few others besides. At Blackpool, directions to the C were a joke, although the refuelling guy was great. Despite a couple of helpful staff most weren't bothered and I wouldn't choose to go back there if it were open.

Shaggy Sheep Driver 15th Oct 2014 08:50

A fond memory of Blackpool in the early '80s. We'd (me and Peter P) flown in in our Chippy in days when the radio rarely worked on xmit (not a major problem back then). On departure, we found the RH brake had failed. Peter had flown in so it was my leg back to Barton, and due the duff right brake Peter was out on the RH wingtip as 'steerer' as we slowly made our way from the apron to the runway. And it was raining. Eventually, at walking pace, we got to the holding point and I pressed the PTT.

Me: "squeel crackle burp click"

BPL ATC: "If that's SL, you are cleared to line up"

I signalled to Peter to proceed, and he steered me onto the runway, got in, (dripping wet), and we closed the canopy (so actually we were both wet having spent the last 20 minutes or so with it open).

Me: "Click, burp, Lima, crackle, pop"

BPL ATC: "If that's that bluddy Chipmunk, just GO!"

Well, he might not have actually said "bluddy", but it was certainly implied!

Jetblu 15th Oct 2014 09:53

Blackpool has always been an unlucky destination for me.

Went on a weekend fishing trip in the 80's and all we caught was crabs.
Fly in for a lads weekend in the 90's and all that was available was mingers.
Had an engine failure with a Seneca on t/o in 2000.
Flew in with the C421 in 2011 and lost the door/locker key somewhere on a beach.

I just ain't going back! :p


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