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F4TCT 21st Aug 2014 07:05

Light Aircraft Down - Buckingham
 
BBC News - One dead in light aircraft crash

Mike744 22nd Aug 2014 08:34

Pilot dies as his light aircraft crashes in a field near Buckingham | Mail Online

sharpend 22nd Aug 2014 09:43

Always very bad news to hear of a light aircraft crash. RIP pilot.

Is it just me, or have their been more than usual lately? If so, is there a common reason?

MacBoero 22nd Aug 2014 23:26

Very saddening. It was a friend of mine.

A and C 24th Aug 2014 06:15

Sharpend
 
I would speculate that the reason for more accidents is likely to stem from a the extra regulatory burden and the extra expense that follows that have reduced the hours that people are flying.

One should remember that the UK CAA supervised a system that resulted in a world class safety system that resulted in one of the worlds lowest accident rates.

We now have a system were EU states that had appalling accident rates have influence over regulation, couple that with the European love of over regulation and you have a safety system that has a prime objective of keeping the administrators of that system employed....... Not of keeping GA safe.

trinnydriver 29th Aug 2014 11:54

WTF X Factor girl's fraudster father killed in Buckinghamshire plane crash - UK - News - London Evening Standard

stevelup 29th Aug 2014 12:12

How on earth did he manage to send a text whilst spinning towards the ground?

Simplythebeast 29th Aug 2014 12:25

Texting while spinning? How was he going to recover from a spin while on his mobile? Seems a bit odd.

Shaggy Sheep Driver 29th Aug 2014 12:41

Well, it's one up on those pilots who have been killed because they got on the radio with a 'Mayday' instead of flying the aeroplane. It may be an old mantra but it's no less true for that; aviate, navigate, communicate, in that order.

ShyTorque 29th Aug 2014 12:58

I've never before heard of someone doing this. It seems almost impossible that a qualified pilot would get hold of his phone rather than keep hold of the controls and keep trying to save the situation.

Shaggy Sheep Driver 29th Aug 2014 13:14

Well he does seem to have been a shady character. I mean, associating with the Blairs?

stevelup 29th Aug 2014 13:21

Well, there are at least two possibilities.

1) Completely untrue - he never texted anything at all. Let's face it, this is a newspaper report we're talking about...

2) He did text - in which case he may have done it before deliberately having an 'accident'...

I find it difficult to accept that anyone would be able to send a text in those circumstances, nor even want to. It'd surely be the last thing on anyones mind...

Whirlybird 29th Aug 2014 13:40

I too find it completely unbelievable.

SpannerInTheWerks 29th Aug 2014 14:48


2) He did text - in which case he may have done it before deliberately having an 'accident'...
... is (probably) the correct answer?

The question is why would he want to put himself in that position - unless there are other revelations yet to be revealed?!?!

Sad in any event.

Simplythebeast 29th Aug 2014 14:56

Is it possible that he was mortally injured in the accident but managed to text a message to his family before passing out and dying?

Shaggy Sheep Driver 29th Aug 2014 15:17


Quote:
2) He did text - in which case he may have done it before deliberately having an 'accident'...
... is (probably) the correct answer?
That occurred to me. But IF that's what he did (as someone else pointed out, it is only a newspaper report and we know how 'accurate' those often are), I can't see it washing with any insurance company.

ETOPS 29th Aug 2014 15:49

I actually used to know this chap, many years ago, when he turned up on the Manchester scene. He made enquiries about learning to fly on a twin, buying a Citation and building an airstrip. This from a lad who looked about 15 years old. A little while later he did start an airstrip next to the M6 near Holmes Chapel - you can still see the remains of the small Tarmac touchdown zones he put in.

Later I followed the "Arrows" fraud trial with amazement as some of it was centred around Altrincham where I lived.

Have to say I'm very sorry he lost his life this way - I'm guessing there will be some interesting revelations to come...

Above The Clouds 29th Aug 2014 20:23


I actually used to know this chap, many years ago, when he turned up on the Manchester scene. He made enquiries about learning to fly on a twin, buying a Citation and building an airstrip. This from a lad who looked about 15 years old. A little while later he did start an airstrip next to the M6 near Holmes Chapel - you can still see the remains of the small Tarmac touchdown zones he put in.

Later I followed the "Arrows" fraud trial with amazement as some of it was centred around Altrincham where I lived.
Not only did I know him but flew with him just before the fraud case came to light all those years ago.

bartonflyer 30th Aug 2014 14:08


Originally Posted by ETOPS (Post 8630348)
I actually used to know this chap, many years ago, when he turned up on the Manchester scene. He made enquiries about learning to fly on a twin, buying a Citation and building an airstrip. This from a lad who looked about 15 years old. A little while later he did start an airstrip next to the M6 near Holmes Chapel - you can still see the remains of the small Tarmac touchdown zones he put in.

Later I followed the "Arrows" fraud trial with amazement as some of it was centred around Altrincham where I lived.

Have to say I'm very sorry he lost his life this way - I'm guessing there will be some interesting revelations to come...

I too knew him many years ago - I installed a computer system and accounting software for him - though I hasten to add I gave no advice on dodgy use of said software!

Can you see the airstrip remains on Google Earth? I've had a quick browse around the M6 near Holmes Chapel but can't find anything obvious.

INeedTheFull90 30th Aug 2014 14:21

If you look up Brereton Lane on west side of m6 you can see an east/west runway shape with hard surfaces at either touch down zone.


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