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bvandedr 29th May 2012 11:14

Update Mode S/ELT Requirments
 
Dear all,

I have just started to fly in Europe (vs. the US) and would like an update from a practical standpoint on the Mode S requirment.

Can I fly VFR in France/Netherlands/Belgium with just a Mode C? As I understand it, this can only be done in Uncontrolled airspace? From practical experience I have had no issues flying through controlled CTRs and TMAs with just my Mode C in Belgium. However how does this work for France?

Thanks for the help....

achimha 29th May 2012 13:59

Mode S is mandatory where a transponder is mandatory. In reality, ATC won't care as long as they get a Mode C readout. If you get ramp-checked, the fine could be substantial.

peterh337 29th May 2012 14:07

Is there an easy "map" showing where Mode S is mandatory for VFR?

UK, OCAS, it isn't.

I am preparing a "VFR in Europe" presentation and would like something more useful than just referring to the AIP :)

dublinpilot 29th May 2012 15:35

No easy map that I know of!

bvandedr,

Information correct as of last summer:
France no problem mode C only.

Netherlands:
Not allowed to use mode C at all (though in practice ATC do ask you to turn it on).
Without mode S, you must remain not above 1200ft and outside any controlled/restricted airspace and outside the Amsterdam North Sea Area (basically everywhere more than 1/2 mile off the coast).

Belgium:
Must remain outside controlled/restricted/militiary airspace without mode S.

I hope that's of help.

Unfortunately in this regard Europe is not one country, and each country has different rules.

achimha 29th May 2012 16:32


Information correct as of last summer:
France no problem mode C only.
The official word from France is this:
It is also recalled that, in accordance to article 3.2.2.2 of the annex from modified June 21 (2001) arrêté, all IFR aircraft have to be
fitted with a mode S ELS transponder since March 31, 2007.
For VFR flights, mode S transponders will be mandatory in 2011 only for new Certificate of Airworthiness. Planning is that they
become mandatory for entering published area by 2014 (arrêté project on going).

dublinpilot 29th May 2012 17:03

Good point. He could be flying a new aircraft and therefore need mode s.


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