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IO540 18th Nov 2011 15:54

For pilot controlled lighting
 
Here

There are other products which do a similar thing but not many that are nicely packaged.

One can usually transmit an SMS at or below 2000ft AGL.

S-Works 18th Nov 2011 16:35


One can usually transmit an SMS at or below 2000ft AGL.
Not sure I would be happy to rely on the 'usually' part of that statement!!

We use one that scans a radio frequency.

IO540 18th Nov 2011 17:27

That one is a lot better :ok:

Lasiorhinus 20th Nov 2011 12:05

Stick to VHF. Install one of these.

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Cusco 20th Nov 2011 12:09


Not sure I would be happy to rely on the 'usually' part of that statement!!

We use one that scans a radio frequency.
Is pilot controlled lighting switchable from the air now legal in the UK?

Peter

edited for morons

Lasiorhinus 20th Nov 2011 12:17

If its not, how on earth do you turn the lights on normally??:eek:

Intercepted 20th Nov 2011 12:41


If its not, how on earth do you turn the lights on normally??http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...milies/eek.gif
You don't do it from air. Pre book a lights on time (automatically) before you take off and wait for SMS confirmation. My understanding is that this is CAAs preferred way of doing it and I'm not going to add what I think about that.

IO540 20th Nov 2011 13:16

It's 19" rack mounted so it must be good ;)


You don't do it from air. Pre book a lights on time (automatically) before you take off and wait for SMS confirmation. My understanding is that this is CAAs preferred way of doing it and I'm not going to add what I think about that.
That's outrageous :yuk:

One of the things I like about pprune is that the puke emoticon is within easy reach.

S-Works 20th Nov 2011 16:39


Quote:
Not sure I would be happy to rely on the 'usually' part of that statement!!

We use one that scans a radio frequency.
Is pilot controlled lighting switchable from the air now legal in the UK?

Peter

edited for morons
It's never been illegal to my knowledge. We can go around the mill on the use of radio frequencies etc.....

A819 21st Nov 2011 10:09

CAP 168 chapter 6


11.1.3 The control of an AGL system from beyond the boundary of a licensed aerodrome will
only be approved by the CAA for the sole use of the emergency services. Where this
type of control is desired, an operational requirement proposed by the aerodrome
authority and supported by the emergency services involved should be submitted in
the first instance to the CAA.
It specifically says "licensed aerodrome"

S-Works 21st Nov 2011 10:40

Yes, and it says nothing about an unlicenced aerodrome.

It also does not indicate that it is illegal at a licenced aerodrome either, just that approval is required.

So like I said, to my knowledge it has never been 'illegal' to use pilot controlled lighting.

Rod1 21st Nov 2011 12:33

It was possible to do this at Tataenhill for many years, but it was stopped about 3 years ago – no idea why.

Rod1

Tinstaafl 22nd Nov 2011 00:05

There used to be a mob that sold airfield marker cones that each had a solar powered LED light , battery & VHF receiver fitted. Quite a neat idea, I thought, and with the advantage that each cone was independent so the failure of a few didn't fail the whole system.

Spitoon 22nd Nov 2011 05:15

The business of PCL use in the UK was discussed at length a little while ago here. This thread seems to be drifting toward the legalities again - it doesn't seem that much has changed since the last thread was active. And that includes the views of individuals who are posting!

IO540 22nd Nov 2011 09:07

I reckon that if you set up PCL nobody would make you take it out. The CAA would not want to see this tested in a court, because it would expose an outrageous attitude towards safety.

And if you used SMS then I am 100.000% sure.


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