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robin 21st Dec 2011 08:43

David

I've scanned through the link but can't see anything about revalidation conditions for the PPL(A). I can see lots about the course content and entry requirements but nothing about the on-going maintenance of the licence. Have you a reference for that?

David Roberts 21st Dec 2011 09:41

The recency requirements (to maintain the licence) are in the published Air Crew Regulation (i.e. Implementing Rules which sit above the AMCs) at:

EUR-Lex - Official Journal - 2011 - L 311

See section:
FCL.060(b) on page 13 (for pax carrying)
FCL.140A for LAPL(A) page 17

I cannot find the equivalent to the LAPL(A) in the PPL (A) requirements in terms of recency but I recall a while ago asking this question of my EASA contact - I'll try to find the answer.

On top of that, maintenance of one's medical of course.

BEagle 21st Dec 2011 11:28

The part-FCL PPL is a lifetime licence, so does not itself have any revalidation criteria as such.

The revalidation requirements for SEP Class Ratings are described in FCL.740A sub-pararaph (b) on .pdf page 40/200:


(b) Revalidation of single-pilot single-engine class ratings.

(1) Single-engine piston aeroplane class ratings and TMG ratings. For revalidation of single-pilot single-engine piston aeroplane class ratings or TMG class ratings the applicant shall:

(i) within the 3 months preceding the expiry date of the rating, pass a proficiency check in the relevant class in accordance with Appendix 9 to this Part with an examiner; or

(ii) within the 12 months preceding the expiry date of the rating, complete 12 hours of flight time in the relevant class, including:
— 6 hours as PIC,
— 12 take-offs and 12 landings, and
— a training flight of at least 1 hour with a flight instructor (FI) or a class rating instructor (CRI). Applicants shall be exempted from this flight if they have passed a class or type rating proficiency check or skill test in any other class or type of aeroplane.

(2) When applicants hold both a single-engine piston aeroplane-land class rating and a TMG rating, they may complete the requirements of (1) in either class, and achieve revalidation of both ratings.
Out of interest, did anyone else find it impossible to download a copy of the .pdf to which David referred? The only way I was able to save a copy was to 'print' the whole thing using CutePDF Writer to create a .pdf replica.

kestrel539 21st Dec 2011 13:10

No problem using Firefox and Foxit as the .pdf prog

David Roberts 21st Dec 2011 13:21

Beagle, thanks for finding the reference.

I had no problem downloading. Suggest go to EASA website, news page, and click on the link there. The docs are the 2nd set from the bottom of the page.

shortstripper 24th Jan 2012 19:59

Sorry to come back to all this yet again but I'm flippin confused :{

I have an old UK PPL A (SEP and TMG) my ratings lapsed 10 months ago but I'm now looking to get flying again. I have a medical (class 2) booked this friday and expect to do some flying and revalidate by test before the end of March. What then? I'll need an EASA licence to fly my EASA falke (once it's in the air "another story" :ugh: ) so what's the best advice?

Apply for a JAR PPL and it will automatically become an EASA PPL? (will the EASA licence then be lifetime or 5 yearly?)

Wait until July, revalidate my ratings and apply for an EASA licence? (will I have to take other tests such as writtens ect if I do?)

Give up, sell the Falke and just fly PFA types on my old licence?

Anybody any idea of the most cost effective / easiest route, or is everyone just as confused as me? I have looked at the various CAA FAQ's ect but I'm lost in the detail :{

SS

B4aeros 24th Jan 2012 20:34

If you apply for a JAR Licence, it will expire in five years & you will have to pay to renew it, at which point you would be given an EASA licence.

Your CAA licence & ratings will convert directly to an EASA licence; the requirements for going from CAA-->EASA are identical to the CAA-->JAR requirements, so there's really no advantage to the JAR route. The CAA's handy guide has the details, p19.

I think you will need to have valid ratings before applying for an EASA licence.

shortstripper 25th Jan 2012 11:47

Thanks ... That does seem the best way, I just needed it pointed out. :ok:

BEagle 25th Jan 2012 13:05

shortstripper, all you need to do is to revalidate your class rating(s) in the normal way, then convert your UK licence to an EASA licence at some point in time between July 2012 and Apr 2015.

There is really no need to rush.


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