At least it provides us with a well-needed respite from all the election bollocks on the telly...:cool:
Placing a blanket ban on SVFR is a touch extreme, however... not sure what the thinking behind that is. No rest for the wicked eh FBW :} Smithy |
This means one cannot fly to many/most Class D airports under VFR.
Bl00dy stupid. |
It's perhaps to offset carbon from the eruption.
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volcanic ash, where?
Complete and utter overreaction for low level traffic. Tried to go to Jersey this afternoon could go IFR but not even S//VFR available as Zone shut to all traffic. Severe blue sky over most of UK FIR.
Health and safety gone mad. |
I spoke to a radar controller and a member of NATS in the South of England today and although they cannot stop VFR flights they recommended NOT to fly any GA flights. Listening in on the RT with the same controller after midday they made a point of saying "....the pilot must ensure safeflight etc" with a big emphasis on the word safe.
The Metoffice is also showing ash from the surface upwards covering the entire UK now. Also speaking to an engineer today, he said any volcanic ash that gets into the cylinders is like sand/grit and will wear the engine. All because the skies are blue does not make it safe to fly. There is no way a GA pilot can ensure the flight is safe when ash is reported from the surface upwards so they should not be flying. If in doubt still speak with the Metoffice for their opinion before flying. |
This means one cannot fly to many/most Class D airports under VFR. |
I would have thought that any ash capable of damaging an engine would be noticeable by taste, smell or recognised by some other form of human senses.
The sky out there is clear blue, vis, a long way. More arse covering hype thickened with large quantities of bullsh!t. |
Sometimes you do. When I used to go to the IOM VFR the clearance given was SVFR.
No idea why... I never asked for it. |
I would have thought that any ash capable of damaging an engine would be noticeable by taste, smell or recognised by some other form of human senses. The sky out there is clear blue, vis, a long way. More arse covering hype thickened with large quantities of bullsh!t. |
With regard to cars, let's recall that -
(a) cars generally have air filters and (b) they are pulling in air much more slowly than a jet hoovering through the upper atmosphere at 500knots or thereby. So, unless the fall of ash is sufficiently severe that you observe significant visibility drop, I'd not worry unduly about your car. |
Originally Posted by IO540
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I agree that the stuff must manifest itself as much reduced visibility - unless some new physics has been created in Iceland :)
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It's not visible in the air, but ash has fallen and reached ground close to the north cape.
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Just back from a nice flypast at Glasgow International in a weightshift microlight.
Some things you can do today that you just wouldn't any other day - or every ash cloud has a silver lining! |
Guess that was you that Glasgow phoned me about as they lost contact with you to the west of the zone!!.....said you were going to 129...something, why not call Scottish for a cheery service on 119.875?? :cool::cool:
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Sometimes you do. When I used to go to the IOM VFR the clearance given was SVFR. No idea why... I never asked for it. |
It's not visible in the air... Not all dangers to aviation are visible to the human senses. Can human senses detect carb icing conditions from the ground in clear blue skies? Listen to the experts such as NATS and the MetOffice rather than fall for the 'if you cannot see the danger then it must be Ok' type reasoning. |
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Are not the guys at NATS just wonderful! Thank the Lord they did not recommend the guy to have (with emphasis) a dangerous flight. Get a life, it is your types attitude that has taken the Great out of Great Britain. Just think where we would be had Columbus, Alcock etc listened to the PC and Health and Safety sect. There is I know a GA to ATPL flight school in Al Ain. It is an area that suffers from more or less continual sand ingress as a result of desert winds. Cessnas, A320, A340 B777 all use the facility on a daily basis no problems have been recorded. And before you do, sand can rise to serious flight levels during dust storms and often does. Maybe they fly safe because Nats and the others mentioned are not located out there! |
Three ship formation through Luton class D VFR this afternoon....:ok:
Simples. DD |
The other thing is that that famous 1982 B747 flew into a solid cloud of the stuff, more or less right above the volcano. At night, they would not have seen a thing. All you have is radar, and if the stuff has no water content / conductivity, it won't show up.
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Was this recently? I am off to the norffff of engoland tomorrow.... was going to go IFR at FL140 but it doesn't look like that piece of Mac hardware in Brussels, packed to the brim with NATS notams, is going to swallow it... |
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