An Election Reminder
 

Just a reminder that when I was talking to Chris Grayling, Home Secretary in waiting, a few months ago, he told me that one of the first things he will do when the Tories get in will be to ban aviation (and, IIRC, boating) from any site without proper security.

The boating bit could be very interesting - quite how he would manage to do that is beyond me.

Never the less the detail may be in the definition of "proper security" whatever that means.

But still probably not good enough grounds to vote the thieving one eyed jock and and his cronies back into power......

Bose - you been watching too much Clarkson. :)

No, I have been watching my net worth devastated by the incompetence and greed of this government. A government that encourages people to breed and consume so that they can keep on spending leaving the rest of us to pick up the tab for the scourge of humanity who are happy to do nothing but breed and live off the rest of us.

A government that wants us all to be equal in typical socialist style, all living in tacky shoe boxes paying half or more of everything we earn to fund the dross who don't. An equal society that stifles adventure and entrepreneurism.

Now where is my soapbox.......

And didn't a politician once say "our skies are not for sale"?

The security bit is interesting and I wonder what his proposal is meant to achieve? There is an airfield near me where very expensive aircraft are parked right next to a main A road. What might his solution be - 50ft high brick wall all round?

This kind of thing has been doing the rounds elsewhere around the world.

IIRC, in Australia they had to put a motorbike-style chain lock around the prop. That sort of thing is not a big deal; in fact personally I am a lot more security-conscious than that regarding my own plane.

The bottom line however is that stealing a car is a lot easier and there are no travel controls on cars :)

The Election
 

Can we not keep politics out of this site. It's bad enough in the Media and I feel that there will be a lot of lies bandied around to promote anger.:mad:

Think I will be taking a very good look at the parties' policies with regards to aviation, especially with regards to Green fascism and how it will affect us, fuel prices, help for the industry, what they will be prepared to do to sort out the right old arse-up that is being made of EASA, etc. :hmm:

Not that many care of course. Labour are too interested in stealing yet more tax to chuck at scroungers who can't be arsed working. The Tories are too interested in slashing stuff to the bone to give rich city wnakers tax cuts. The Lib Dems are just being the irrelevant Lib Dems. The rest consists of various unlikeable inbred radges e.g. EcoNazis, fascists, sheep-shagging Nationalists, Socialists, breakaway EuroSceptic Tories, The Old Fart Party (or "Jury Team" or whatever the heck it was called) etc.

Smithy

IMHO this kind of discussion is perfectly OK here.

The problem is that one cannot do single-issue voting. It achieves absolutely nothing.

All one can do is pick up on stupid promises like this one and make sure enough people have their attention drawn to it, and then the right kind of lobbying can take place to make sure the really stupid things don't happen.

As far as I am concerned it is a purely aviation matter, not a matter of political debate.

I am merely reporting what Chris Grayling told me he is going to do when he is Home Secretary. There are plenty of wider debates to be had (though actually there doesn't seem to be anything to choose between any of them) but this is very specifically about our flying freedom.

As an aside, Bose, I thought that your wealth was destroyed by the Icelandic government rather than our own?

I doubt Grayling will be home secretary anyway, in the event of a Tory victory. Given his comments about gay couples and B&Bs, he's clearly an electoral liability (as well as a fool).

labour gov - anti aviation
 

The famous 'Crisis, what crisis?' Labour PM Callagham, banned general aviation during the 70's fuel crisis. The gliding club that I was a member of then had a seasons supply of diesel - but we couldn't use that to power the winch and launch gliders.

Labour is the party of envy, not aspiration. I used to drive an old banger and live on rice and eggs during the week to pay for flying at the weekends - but all they saw was 'a rich mans sport'

I hope you are right but your logic is flawed. He is Shadow Home Secretary now. Now is election time. Now is the time that he is a liability. After the election, if and when he is appointed Home Secretary, it will be 5 years to the next one so his Christian Right homophobia won't count for much, so he won't be an election liability then; (every other kind of liability I grant you, but not an electoral one.)

I rarely agree with Bose x - but on THIS occasion, he's spot on.

When I first saw this on Flyer (topic now locked) I thought it was a belated April joke. Alas, it seems I have been too naïve - again! :ugh:

Bose
 

Didn't read the rest,you've got it in one.

No smiley for what the hell do we do to get it right.

One of my best pals has taken up deer stalking,with a powerful rifle.

Maybe we should all get one of those?

Just playing devil's advocate... but have one of the "others" clearly set out in their manifesto etc. that they will do otherwise!!? I understand the frustration, owning my own businesses but does anyone seriously think that taking their frustration out by "voting against" will change anything?

No matter who you vote for, The Government always gets in.
Any person who seeks public office should be banned from it.