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IFMU 12th Apr 2009 01:33

From the Cessna 120/140 association forum:


I've had conversations with the dead stick T/O guy. He flies a Highlander, and did several take offs with power and then at idle. He's no fool, and of course it has a starter as well. It's one of those things that look harder than it is, and he approached it safely.
Actually less danger than a short field with trees at the departure end, you see he had an answer to "what if the engine quits"
-- IFMU

LH2 12th Apr 2009 12:47

The Ultimate Flying Cowboy, isn't he? :} :} Have a look at this other video here. On-board Country-blasting stereo and all :p

I used to have a colleague at work who taught himself aerobatics back in the 60's from a book he bought at a flea market. Apparently he and his mate used to fly over to his girlfriend's village aiming not to go over any power lines.

As he put it to me: back in Montana if you got yourself killed doing anything stupid your mother would probably be a little upset for a while, but that was it.

Different mindsets for sure. Live and let live.

Crazy Fokker 18th Apr 2009 14:52

I was actually amazed and quite entertained by this guys videos. As others have said he clearly knows his aircraft and the landscape incredibly well, he obviously wouldn't attempt anything as daring until he'd made sure there was minimal risk.

There's a clear glide down to the sand bar and he has ample altitude to keep his speed high enough. As we all know those Highlanders can stop in such short stretches, it's not surprising that someone somewhere has all the necessary ingredients to really show the world what these puppies are capable of :ok:

Think of the reception Bob Hoover got when he rolled the 707! And there aren't many that would stand up and criticise Bob's airmanship. He also was known for rolling twin engine aircraft with pax on aboard.

L'aviateur 18th Apr 2009 17:19


I do have to admit, though, that I'm not faultless when it comes to risk taking. I did slip a C172 with flaps once... Shameful := , I have to admit doing the same http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/smile.gif Mind you, there is nothing in the POH to say you can't.
Not wanting to seem stupid, but why can't you slip a 172 with flaps, I have done it on a few occasions without giving it a second though, until now.

IFMU 19th Apr 2009 01:37


Originally Posted by Crazy Fokker
Think of the reception Bob Hoover got when he rolled the 707!

Uh, that was Tex Johnson. It was good but not quite Bob Hoover.
YouTube - Boeing 707 roll by Test Pilot Tex Johnson


Originally Posted by L'aviateur
Not wanting to seem stupid, but why can't you slip a 172 with flaps, I have done it on a few occasions without giving it a second though, until now.

It has been a long time since I flew a 172, but I seem to recall the POH cautioned the pilot about slipping with full (40 degrees) of flaps. My understanding was the downwash from the flaps could impinge upon the horizontal stabilizer when in a big slip and cause pitch excursions. I've never seen it though.

-- IFMU

Lightning6 19th Apr 2009 01:49

IMFU....In my POH it states "When landing in a strong crosswind, use the minimum flap setting required for the field length". Interpret that as you will.

Crazy Fokker 4th May 2009 00:59


Originally Posted by IFMU

Uh, that was Tex Johnson. It was good but not quite Bob Hoover.
I beg your pardon, you're quite right....If you google Bob Hoover and 'rolls 707' you can see how I was mislead. Particularly, many other aviation forums have threads whicvh credit him as the guy was responsible.

I do find this strange though, as I do recall watching a documenatary about B. Hoover...where clips of him rolling the 707 were shown.

Whatever:ouch:!


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