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noiseabatement 28th Dec 2004 20:12

Newcastle Upon Tyne Aero Club
 
Hi Members:

Hope all is well after Christmas!

Hope 2 Fly: Yes, this whole thread is dedicated to people wanting to save our club and all of the postings echo this.

Are you a member? Forgive my impertenance but I haven't seen your callsign before on the thread.

I believe Elia Golfin's proposal is the one to save our club and for it to continue as a members club. Why - did you have something else in mind?

Any proposal that hasn't considerable financial backing, a good business plan, a mission statement to make Mr Parkin sit up has only 1 type of Hope - No Hope! No pun intended.

Here's to January... !

noiseabatement 29th Dec 2004 00:42

Newcastle Upon Tyne Aero Club
 
Dear Members:

HST! The seasons greetings to you my friend.

Just laughing to myself re: your comments about JP, security everywhere the man goes, probably quite normal in this current climate with gangs of heavies capturing bank managers, and airport CEO is unthinkable when you take into account the sad events of 9/11

Good night all.

B

Hold Foxtrot (again) 29th Dec 2004 08:52

Mu Beta
 
Hi All

MB: Yes, if you average out the landing cost owed and divide by the fee it is somwhere in the region of 3k,on top if the CFI's salary if paid £1 per flying hour.

It was mentioned in conversation of a healthy bank balance after the insurance pay out and now where are we. A full open till..
Draw your own conclusion's.

As TJ said RH was on the field, so possibly the money did not pay for it,again I think the statment of accounts mentioned a loan against G-NELI,maybe some body in know can post a reply ?

Regards All

Mu Beta 29th Dec 2004 10:03

HF(A)
 
HF(A) Thanks for the clarifacation.
If the money wasn't used for the purchase of aircraft then I can't think what happened to it. I know there seemed to be a long search for a replacement twin and then another single appeared and I assumed that's what the money was used for...
Assumption, however, is always dangerous!
Does anyone have any concrete information about the current state of affairs regarding re-opening the club?

TOPJET973K 29th Dec 2004 10:28

Newcastle Aero Club
 
Hi Ladies/Gents

Nothing is concrete until it has set!

Cheers Mu Beta :cool:

M

Hope 2 fly 29th Dec 2004 16:40

Newcastle Aero Club
 
Hi BB,
I have never been a member of NAC
I have in mind future flying oportunities from Newcastle Airport.
I hope to fly with a club from there.

I noticed the reference to "our club" and all contributors to this thread are interested in NAC flying again.

Could you please help me contact the current co-ordinator of this clubs activities.

cheers
Hope

Hold Foxtrot (again) 30th Dec 2004 09:54

Mu Beta
 
M B:- Consider the following

The till leaked .

Possibly the fairy's at the bottom of the runway.

Ghost's of past committe members.

It's all a rumour.

The choice is your's..........

Hope 2: It will come together oneday .

Regards All

HST . Slanderous...!!! (on our council tax too )...

TOPJET973K 30th Dec 2004 11:40

Newcastle Aero Club
 
Hope 2 Fly

Hi - check your private PM messages.

Thanks

M

Hope 2 fly 30th Dec 2004 18:03

Hi Foxtrot & BB,
I believe it is important to have Faith too.
I also Hope the future is favourable and has a "club" outcome.
It seems to me at the moment that what is needed to achieve it is a lot of Charity!

Hi Topjet,
Thanks for the message. I will get in touch.

Cheers
Hope2

Charlie32 31st Dec 2004 07:15

Have it on good authority there are 8 expressions of interest presently with the administrators.

Apparently favourite at the moment is MQ (local business man) who plans to have a Toxedo Jumbo in the grounds of the aero club.

Well it will cerrtainly liven up the social side!!

nacker barslob 31st Dec 2004 08:08

The tequila slammer option sounds great, but whatever happened to the "just a bit of paper work to sort out with the administrators" Elia Golfin clubby thing, that seemed so certain not so long ago?? (TJ)

Well hope all the pruners have a great new year, and hope that by the time I return from the oblivion of new year that we have a shiney new club

Tally Ho one and all!!!

Happyeater 31st Dec 2004 09:13

Having had dealings with Mr Tuxedo in the past, I have a strong feeling that an Aero Club and aircraft would be well behind how many pints the New Club could sell. Also, with a reputation of paying as few people as possible how safe will the aircraft be?

Got a very bad feeling that if he gets the Club, flying will be very low on the agenda. I hope Im wrong. I hope someone else gets the club or Teesside (or whatever it is now) will be getting my business.

Happy New Year everyone and fingers crossed for a favourable outcome soon.

TOPJET973K 31st Dec 2004 09:13

Newcastle Aero Club
 
Hi All.

I had a lengthy telephone chat with Mike Pott the other day after I had come across some more information that the administrators will find useful.

To say the favourite is MQ is wholly inaccurate, however I certainly don't want to get into a debate where NOBODY really knows who is the favourite, all I can say is that ONE firm offer has been submitted with a financial/business plan.

Everybody enjoy tonight and health and happiness in 2005.

Cheers

M

GonTek 31st Dec 2004 10:17

Happyeater.


You are 1000% correct,money is his only God.

Fly Quadrini I think not



Best Wishes for 2005 (and a new N A C)

Mu Beta 31st Dec 2004 15:34

Noiseabatement
 
Yes...the tragedy in Asia certainly puts things in persective doesn't it.
God help them all.

Paris Dakar 31st Dec 2004 16:30

Dear Members,

I wish you all the best for 2005, and hopefully we can soon be club flying again from EGNT.

Mu Beta/noiseabatement,

Well said, an awful reminder of fragile existence ....................25,000+ gone in an instant. God take pitty on those who have perished and those still missing.

AW

Hope 2 fly 31st Dec 2004 17:13

Dear members,
Yes the Tsunami in asia certainly puts NAC's problems in perspective!
My heart goes out to those in Asia. It makes me feel helpless if only one could do something constructive.

I mentioned Charity earlier.
Are there any feelings in this group or through its leaders to make a collective response/ donation to a relief fund?

Best wishes, to those in asia and to all members here, for a better new year!

Cheers
Hope2

Hope 2 fly 1st Jan 2005 11:39

The "club"
 
hi Flyer's,
Good morning & welcome to the new year!

The mention of Quadrini brings to mind a private club as a comercial enterprise for the benifit of the owner!!!!!

as opposed to a "club" run by members for the benefit of people who join to share a common interest

what do you all favour

urdy gurdy 1st Jan 2005 18:19

well the club thing hasnt worked in recent years has it, i dont fancy mq buying out but the "club" part of this business needs bringing into the 21st century instead of the early 1930s.
so maybe it is time it was ran as a business

Mu Beta 1st Jan 2005 20:04

The club
 
The Aeroclub (social part) ran well in the 1970s and 80s as an "exclusive" club where the more wealthy elderly residents of Darras Hall etc. could go for a quiet drink and socialise with similar people. Many of the elderly ladies pitched large amounts of money into the gaming machines on a regular basis. They also liked the ambience of the dining room and were able to get very good meals there at sensible prices when Rene and Beryl still held sway there. Not many of these people were actually pilots but they liked the prestige associated with belonging to such a club. Sadly most of this clientele have now passed away or are too infirm to attend any more but these were the people who kept the profits of the bar etc. up.
When I began flying at Newcastle there was a "rest area", for want of a better description, where we've recently had an instructor's room and people sat in there before and after flying discussing flying (among other things)with older and wiser pilots, gaining from their experience, forging freindships and drinking coffee. Then when the bar opened (different licensing hours) went in and continued their chats over alcohol and, often, a game of pool.
In recent years, when there was no longer that rest area and everything ran out of the refurbished office, most people seemed to go flying, pay their bill, have a brief chat and go, the relaxed atmosphere of the rest area was lost and I think it was this relaxation and the things we could learn from each other which encouraged many people to adjourn to the bar. One thing led to the other...but once that area was gone, the atmosphere it created did not seem to be acheivable.
These, I think are the reasons for the social side's demise.
As to the flying side...I'm afraid its down to, at least, mismanagement, at worst...I'm not sure.
I'm sure of one thing though...it certainly won't be the club we've know if mq buys it.


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