Fantasy Cessna 180, 185 or 195?
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Some pics from Sun n Fun.
195 pic from sun n fun
Another 195 from sun n nfun
180 at sun n fun traveled with 4 guys camp gear, chairs, tables large amount of beer, generator, blender, peaches, and tequila.
The 180 seemed to do the trick (if you like peach margueritas) but the 195 is pretty.
Pete
195 pic from sun n fun
Another 195 from sun n nfun
180 at sun n fun traveled with 4 guys camp gear, chairs, tables large amount of beer, generator, blender, peaches, and tequila.
The 180 seemed to do the trick (if you like peach margueritas) but the 195 is pretty.
Pete
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This one was for sale at $12,000 a while back. It had been there for 16 years, would make an interesting project.
Speaking of parroting received wisdom: I believe that it is commonly accepted that in most cases, one is far better off paying a reasonable price for an aircraft in reasonable condition, rather than trying to save money by purchasing a restoration job (which can often turn into a financial nightmare , as well as consuming huge amounts of time ).
Of course, like all generalizations, the above is subject to exceptions ... but I wouldn't counsel anyone to get involved in a restoration 'project' with the sole aim of saving/making money.
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We had the same debate about aircraft.
I've had shares in a Condor and a Jodel in the past and our first aircraft which we owned outright was a Rallye 150 ST which was
a cracking aircraft. It fullfilled my criteria of
a) not being Cessna or Piper
b) having reasonable STOL performance
and
c) being fun to fly
The only thing that finally forced us into the position of finding something else was that my partner had worsening health resulting in several knee operations and couldn't get in and out of it.
I was fairly resigned to buying a C172 or a PA28, but we chanced across a Siai Marchetti S205 which after some debate we bought. We were a bit nervous because there are only five in the UK and they're all different variants, but Aeromachi still provide manufacturers support and so far have been excellent - if a bit slow sometimes.
It's nowhere near the Rallye in STOL terms but it's still reasonable. We've operated out of a 525m strip at reduced weight and landing distances are quite short. It has a usefull load of 950lbs (inc fuel) and a passable cruise of 115knots.
I would keep your eyes open - occasionally there are some very nice aircraft around eg: a Robin 3000 recently came on the market which is the metal version of the DR400 and a superb looking plane with excellant performance.
I've had shares in a Condor and a Jodel in the past and our first aircraft which we owned outright was a Rallye 150 ST which was
a cracking aircraft. It fullfilled my criteria of
a) not being Cessna or Piper
b) having reasonable STOL performance
and
c) being fun to fly
The only thing that finally forced us into the position of finding something else was that my partner had worsening health resulting in several knee operations and couldn't get in and out of it.
I was fairly resigned to buying a C172 or a PA28, but we chanced across a Siai Marchetti S205 which after some debate we bought. We were a bit nervous because there are only five in the UK and they're all different variants, but Aeromachi still provide manufacturers support and so far have been excellent - if a bit slow sometimes.
It's nowhere near the Rallye in STOL terms but it's still reasonable. We've operated out of a 525m strip at reduced weight and landing distances are quite short. It has a usefull load of 950lbs (inc fuel) and a passable cruise of 115knots.
I would keep your eyes open - occasionally there are some very nice aircraft around eg: a Robin 3000 recently came on the market which is the metal version of the DR400 and a superb looking plane with excellant performance.
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But if you had the time and the money you could have a very nice aircraft to your own spec
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No no no no no your'e all wrong!
The only plane you need is still in reasonable fantasy supply and drop dead gourgeous.
Ladies and Gentleman I give you the .................
Stinson SR10C .......
or -9D if you have muchos fantasy dollars.
It does everything Eddie and Kathleen said it would do and Clyde I'm sure would agree.
Sir George Cayley
Ladies and Gentleman I give you the .................
Stinson SR10C .......
or -9D if you have muchos fantasy dollars.
It does everything Eddie and Kathleen said it would do and Clyde I'm sure would agree.
Sir George Cayley
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Cusco,
Most people these days (including me) initially learn on tricycle undercarriages. A few go on to learn to fly tailwheel. No one who only has experience of one type or the other is in a position to fairly assess their relative pros and cons.
If you are perfectly happy flying Cessnas or Pipers, then there is no need for you to spend time or money upgrading your pilot skills.
Most people these days (including me) initially learn on tricycle undercarriages. A few go on to learn to fly tailwheel. No one who only has experience of one type or the other is in a position to fairly assess their relative pros and cons.
If you are perfectly happy flying Cessnas or Pipers, then there is no need for you to spend time or money upgrading your pilot skills.
Not so N, but still FG
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Fairchild Argus, anyone? Big six engine, more STOL than a very STOLly thing being quite STOLly, large four-seat cabin, classy art deco detailing, and (gasp!) wind-down windows.
OK, LowNSlow, I'll get me coat...
OK, LowNSlow, I'll get me coat...