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Flying Under Bridges
Obviously the latest craze......
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3043308.stm
A CAA spokesman said:
Was the fact that these pilots were Spanish anything to do with the decision by the CAA & Police not to do anything? Maybe the fact that they just wouldnt turn up for a court hearing?
54ft high bridge, must have been quite sporting!!
Anyone know any good structures in the south east? I've always fancied having a crack under the Dartford Bridge....
Zlin
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3043308.stm
A CAA spokesman said:
"We are aware of the incident and it is being dealt with by the police.
54ft high bridge, must have been quite sporting!!
Anyone know any good structures in the south east? I've always fancied having a crack under the Dartford Bridge....
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And they are NOT being prosecuted they say..... why the **** not?
The CAA spend fortunes taking zone infringers to court who (ok foolishly) get lost in the LCTR. Then let these jokers off who deliberately break the rules.
WTF is going on?
The CAA spend fortunes taking zone infringers to court who (ok foolishly) get lost in the LCTR. Then let these jokers off who deliberately break the rules.
WTF is going on?
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"hats and goggles" in a 152/172 (picture is little small) !!!!
I remember flying into Brough many years ago and the temptaion to fly under the bridge they were building adjacent was nearly more than I could resist - if I had my goggles, maybe a different thing !
(edited 'cos I hate sloppy Punktchewation)
I remember flying into Brough many years ago and the temptaion to fly under the bridge they were building adjacent was nearly more than I could resist - if I had my goggles, maybe a different thing !
(edited 'cos I hate sloppy Punktchewation)
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AlanM
I agree - this is exactly why the EU will never work.
Yes there are rules for everything but the UK is the only country that enforces them with great gusto - but only on its own citizens.
Its exactly the same with speeding. Do it France and its fine on the spot or car conficated. EU citizens caught speeding in UK are told to go home and hopefully come back later and pay the fine
Looks like this is much the same.
I agree - this is exactly why the EU will never work.
Yes there are rules for everything but the UK is the only country that enforces them with great gusto - but only on its own citizens.
Its exactly the same with speeding. Do it France and its fine on the spot or car conficated. EU citizens caught speeding in UK are told to go home and hopefully come back later and pay the fine
Looks like this is much the same.
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RS,
I have always suspected it but you have just confirmed it!
All Brits are godfearing and lawabiding citizens and all foreigners are 'bandits'
Yah yah.
On the spot fines abroad work the same for whatever nationality you are, as do camera witnessed offences. You will 'get away' with them even if you are a Brit.
Vis-a-vis flying I think that it is just as well that the DGAC has a seemingly laidback approach to the misbehaviour of some pilots of these shores. As has been lamented on these pages before there is quite a bit to moan about regarding legality and airmanship even when one does not look further than Le Touquet on a sunny day!
Come on mate, keep wearing those pink tinted glasses and pop the anti-paranoia pills!
Great Britain is great, but it ain't Nirvana and angelic wings are not standard issue to its inhabitants.
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I have always suspected it but you have just confirmed it!
All Brits are godfearing and lawabiding citizens and all foreigners are 'bandits'
Yah yah.
On the spot fines abroad work the same for whatever nationality you are, as do camera witnessed offences. You will 'get away' with them even if you are a Brit.
Vis-a-vis flying I think that it is just as well that the DGAC has a seemingly laidback approach to the misbehaviour of some pilots of these shores. As has been lamented on these pages before there is quite a bit to moan about regarding legality and airmanship even when one does not look further than Le Touquet on a sunny day!
Come on mate, keep wearing those pink tinted glasses and pop the anti-paranoia pills!
Great Britain is great, but it ain't Nirvana and angelic wings are not standard issue to its inhabitants.
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"All Brits are godfearing and lawabiding citizens and all foreigners are 'bandits'"
I think you need some of the anti paranoia pills !!
If you stop and read it very carefully you will see it was not aimed at advocating the angelic british public but against the British bureaucracy.
As far as the EU law enforcement is concerned you will find it very different between almost anywhere in EU and UK.
On the spot fines are not used in UK but are very much so in France ( from experience !!) and certainly the UK points system is not applied to any EU licence
"All Brits are godfearing and lawabiding citizens and all foreigners are 'bandits'"
I think you need some of the anti paranoia pills !!
If you stop and read it very carefully you will see it was not aimed at advocating the angelic british public but against the British bureaucracy.
As far as the EU law enforcement is concerned you will find it very different between almost anywhere in EU and UK.
On the spot fines are not used in UK but are very much so in France ( from experience !!) and certainly the UK points system is not applied to any EU licence
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RS,
In your original post you make 2 statements:
1. That the UK enforces law more vigorous than any of the other EU countries and does so only for its own citizens.
If true I think this is something you can hardly blame the EU for.
2. That France has on the spot fines for speeding. For your information, these also exist in Holland, Belgium, Germany and Spain. These are applied to speeding and other traffic offences to the perpetrator, regardless of country of origin.
Again that there are no on the spot fines in the UK is not down to the EU.
May be we can get these things streamlined once the US of E are fully established and we have done away with the 'sovereign' parliaments in the memberstates, pay with euros, drive on the right side of the road and have a proper president.
The paranoia that some people have about Europe makes me smile. This entire thread had nothing to do with Europe at all. The alleged perpetrators in this incident may well have not come from these shores, who knows.
But does this make the matter worse or better? The person in the TB was, and the helo driver likely was. Are they spending the rest of their days in the dungeons in Warwick Castle? No!
Mate of mine found himself in CAS abroad last year, the country in which this happend wrote to the CAA who in turn wrote to my mate. He was asked to explain what had happened which he did. He got a letter with a request never to do that again and a telling off and that was it.
So give those dark specs a rub, and brighten up.
Thanks for the pill offer but I think I'll decline.
FD
In your original post you make 2 statements:
1. That the UK enforces law more vigorous than any of the other EU countries and does so only for its own citizens.
If true I think this is something you can hardly blame the EU for.
2. That France has on the spot fines for speeding. For your information, these also exist in Holland, Belgium, Germany and Spain. These are applied to speeding and other traffic offences to the perpetrator, regardless of country of origin.
Again that there are no on the spot fines in the UK is not down to the EU.
May be we can get these things streamlined once the US of E are fully established and we have done away with the 'sovereign' parliaments in the memberstates, pay with euros, drive on the right side of the road and have a proper president.
The paranoia that some people have about Europe makes me smile. This entire thread had nothing to do with Europe at all. The alleged perpetrators in this incident may well have not come from these shores, who knows.
But does this make the matter worse or better? The person in the TB was, and the helo driver likely was. Are they spending the rest of their days in the dungeons in Warwick Castle? No!
Mate of mine found himself in CAS abroad last year, the country in which this happend wrote to the CAA who in turn wrote to my mate. He was asked to explain what had happened which he did. He got a letter with a request never to do that again and a telling off and that was it.
So give those dark specs a rub, and brighten up.
Thanks for the pill offer but I think I'll decline.
FD
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TimS,
Many moons agao, as said bridge was nearing completion, a friend of mine said he was going to fly under it. Next week, he came back rather agitated. He had flown under said bridge alledgedly, however as he approached it he noticed at the last second, there were loads of guy ropes still dangling from the deck. Fortunately, the apparent wingspan contracted at the same rate as his sphincter and all was well
Many moons agao, as said bridge was nearing completion, a friend of mine said he was going to fly under it. Next week, he came back rather agitated. He had flown under said bridge alledgedly, however as he approached it he noticed at the last second, there were loads of guy ropes still dangling from the deck. Fortunately, the apparent wingspan contracted at the same rate as his sphincter and all was well
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And for those of you of who haven't seen it, here's Jurgis Kairys and one of the ten bridges of Vilnius he did a few years ago.
1.4mb video...
"Proceed Inverted. Not below 4ft."
(There was a fine. For illegal cigarette advertising
The then Lithuanian prime minister, an ex aerobatic champion himself, took pity and paid the fine for Kairys.)
1.4mb video...
"Proceed Inverted. Not below 4ft."
(There was a fine. For illegal cigarette advertising
The then Lithuanian prime minister, an ex aerobatic champion himself, took pity and paid the fine for Kairys.)
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AlanM
I am with you in what you say......weel said.....WTF is going on !
The CAA have an email from me which demands a logical reply as to why the PIC was let off Scot-Free.
There is NO excuse for this clown to be sending two-fingers at the CAA (much like Prescott at No10 !).
If they want to play silly-******s then I think Spain has some pretty fancy bridges.........risk a prang and expense in their own back-yard.
Letting off the B727 Stansted high-jackers must be a reportable disease.
TG
I am with you in what you say......weel said.....WTF is going on !
The CAA have an email from me which demands a logical reply as to why the PIC was let off Scot-Free.
There is NO excuse for this clown to be sending two-fingers at the CAA (much like Prescott at No10 !).
If they want to play silly-******s then I think Spain has some pretty fancy bridges.........risk a prang and expense in their own back-yard.
Letting off the B727 Stansted high-jackers must be a reportable disease.
TG
Flyin Dutch,
You've gone completely off at a tangent and I'm not surprised RS cannot be bothered to reply.
You are the one whose took this thread down the EU route no-one else.RS was not being anti EU he was being anti bureaucracy in the UK.Unfortunately you let your prejudices show and look a bit daft for it.
You've gone completely off at a tangent and I'm not surprised RS cannot be bothered to reply.
You are the one whose took this thread down the EU route no-one else.RS was not being anti EU he was being anti bureaucracy in the UK.Unfortunately you let your prejudices show and look a bit daft for it.
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Some superb old photographs of an intrepid pilot flying under bridges along the Thames in 1930 and again in 1953 .
Click Mad Major.
He's flying a fixed-wing, not a helicopter, so thought the pics might be of interest to you.
Heliport
Click Mad Major.
He's flying a fixed-wing, not a helicopter, so thought the pics might be of interest to you.
Heliport
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They were'nt prosecuted because they were wearing kilts & had their square & compass rings on ..
This was recently done in Paris - right under the Eiffel TOwer - didnt realize it was that high but it surely is !
This was recently done in Paris - right under the Eiffel TOwer - didnt realize it was that high but it surely is !
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Hi FF,
I leave it to you to assume why RS hasn't posted back........
Following your comments I have reread my posts but can not find any prejudices in them.
May be you can enlighten me on what prejudices I have. Always keen to learn. We don't want to look silly, do we?
Can I suggest you read the posts in chronological order (that is the time-order in which they appear). You can probably see that the EU was dragged into this debate by someone else.
Of course I agree with you that the EU matter is a tangent; if you reread the exchange of emails you may appreciate that this was the essence of my postings.
Have fun!
FD
I leave it to you to assume why RS hasn't posted back........
Following your comments I have reread my posts but can not find any prejudices in them.
May be you can enlighten me on what prejudices I have. Always keen to learn. We don't want to look silly, do we?
Can I suggest you read the posts in chronological order (that is the time-order in which they appear). You can probably see that the EU was dragged into this debate by someone else.
Of course I agree with you that the EU matter is a tangent; if you reread the exchange of emails you may appreciate that this was the essence of my postings.
Have fun!
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The 'Mad Major' flew his Auster under all the Thames bridges bar one, I believe, in the early fifties and got a short ban and a five quid fine or somefink like that. He did it to prove that people weren't washed up at 50. Them were the days. Fancy the link road bridge at Bideford myself -- it would be a doddle.
On the CAS infringement issue, heard some poor sod being told off by London Information yesterday for infringing Luton airspace and then being told to take down a phone number and that action would be taken against him. Honestly, punitive action just makes you want to turn off the transponder and keep stumm. It's counter-productive.
David
On the CAS infringement issue, heard some poor sod being told off by London Information yesterday for infringing Luton airspace and then being told to take down a phone number and that action would be taken against him. Honestly, punitive action just makes you want to turn off the transponder and keep stumm. It's counter-productive.
David