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Old 20th May 2003, 21:37
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FAA Licence, what does it look like?

Hi,

Just a small query. I applied for my FAA Licence a few weeks ago, and got a piece of paper through the post a few days ago. I think it's what I need but I am not sure.

It's about A4 size and has all my details on it of ratings, validity etc but at the bottom says "You are now auhtorised to apply for a FAA Licence".

So what do I have to do next to do hour building in the US? Is there a second stage to the application or is this it?

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Old 20th May 2003, 21:43
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Sounds like you have got the confirmation document that you need to present to an FSDO in the US to pick up an FAA certificate based on your existing licence.

A real FAA ticket is rather unimpressive consisting of a piece of light carboard about 3"x1.5" printed on both sides, which most people laminate to avoid it falling apart after a couple of outings.
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Old 20th May 2003, 21:52
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Cheers 2Donkeys, so I'm all set to go!

So will I need to take a trip to the FSDO to get the real thing? Eeek! How easily located are these FSDO's?
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It sounds as though you have a letter of acknowledgement from Oklahoma City
If this is so you now have I think 6 months to present yourself, the letter, your current license and medical, and photo id by appointment at your nominated FSDO, which must by in the USA.

FSDOs are all listed by region on the FAA website
You should have nominated your FSDO with your original application Oklahoma city will have sent a copy to your nominated FSDO.

When you get there it's quite painless. mine took about 30 mins yesterday and there's no charge.


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Old 20th May 2003, 22:45
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Ahh, I understand.

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www.faa.gov is the faa website. FSDOs are now closed to the walk in public - at least the DAL one is. You just have to make an appointment first.

Not sure what the A4 (They call it eight and a half by eleven) was that you got. I doubt it was a form 8710 (that's the license application form) and it could have been a print out of your records, except that you won't have anything to print So it must be what the other bloke said: a letter that allows you to get the US license based on licenses earned in a foreign country.

Where are you going to do your timebuilding?
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Old 20th May 2003, 23:43
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Hi OtC

I am going to be doing my hour building at Long Beach, with a company called RainbowAir.

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Old 21st May 2003, 00:00
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Check with Rainbow Air, they may fly you down to the FSDO at Riverside. For heavens sake make sure that you have everything tied up perfectly before you go to the USA - No US Airmans Certificate = no flying - period - it's that simple and painful! Oh and make sure that Riverside will let you through the door! Don't forget that on the other side of the pond you are an alien!!!!
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I just went through this drill meself. In your application to Oklahoma, you would have specified which FSDO you were going to present yourself to. The way the program works is they send you a copy of the confirmation letter and they send a copy to the FSDO you specified. That is the only FSDO you can apply to.

I highly recommend calling the FSDO and confirming they have their copy. I did this and found out they did not get my confirmation letter from Oklahoma. It then took another day and a number of phone calls before Oklahoma dug out my file and faxed it to the FSDO.

Also, you may need to make an appointment with the FSDO or they may not let you through the door without one. Again, call ahead.

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Old 21st May 2003, 00:49
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...and make sure you have a photo-ID, or you won't get in the door - appointment or not.

(guess who fell foul of that one after an hours flight to the FSDO at Richmond )
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Old 21st May 2003, 01:03
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According to an article on this site:

http://www.pplir.org/sub.cfm/id/138/...%20Licenses%27

you don't have to go stateside to get an FAA licence as there are 'travelling' FAA Ops Inspectors who visit Europe. You just have to hook up with their diary..
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I highly recommend calling the FSDO and confirming they have their copy.
I second that. Working with the FAA re obtaining a US "airman certificate" on the basis of a foreign license is not a particularly difficult process; HOWEVER, you need to take the time and trouble to ensure that (1) the FSDO has received authorization from Oklahoma City and (2) you have a pre-arranged appointment. Before you leave the UK, take care of this via e-mail, and then telephone the FSDO's contact person to double check everything.

Once you get to the FSDO, it's a painless process ... you just have to get all of your ducks in a row beforehand.
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I also second (third???) what's said above. I didn't have an appointment and didn't know I needed one. I was told to come back the next day, but after I explained I was departing on a flight that evening (not true) they relented and saw me two hours later. I left the office with a big grin and an extremely brown tongue.

OBK, I'm a bit worried that you don't know which FSDO you're supposed to be going to. As others have said you MUST give this information at the time of your inital application to the FAA. Are you SURE you have done this properly? What exactly have you done so far? You should have sent a 'Verification of Authenticity of Foreign License' form to the FAA (attaching photocopies of your license and medical if possible) and an SRG/1160 to the CAA along with 15 of your hard-earned beer tokens.

I received no written confirmation from Oklahoma City - just an Email. I'm happy to send you a copy to compare to your letter if this'll help.

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Actually, just looked at the Email and it says at the bottom, after all my personal details: "This applicant is authorized to apply for a Federal Aviation Administration certificate issued on the basis of his foreign license." This sounds like what you got?
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Old 21st May 2003, 02:47
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Knobby

Yeh, I got the email and the letter through. I applied to the Los Angeles office I just didn't recognise the abbreviation "FSDO". I remember now!

Anyway, I am gona give LA FSDO a call, and confirm they have recieved my verifcation confirmation, and to also book an appointment.

I am guessing that Passport is a perfectly acceptable form of Photo ID?

Many thanks for your help folks,
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Old 21st May 2003, 02:55
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OBK!, you're a fellow Sherburner right? If you're coming to the fly-in on the 7th I'll happily show you my "thrilling" FAA licences (both the temporary one issued by the FSDO and the permie one which arrived 2 months later). I'm sure you can't wait If you're off to the states before then, good luck and enjoy yourself.
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There is a FSDO in Long Beach, about 2 mins drive from the airport....

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Old 21st May 2003, 03:29
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Hi Knobby,

I sure am based at Sherburn. Whether I go to the flyinn or not depends on whether I pass my driving test the day before, and whether or not I can get the day off work on the Saturday.

I'd love to engage in a conversation about flying in the USA though, would be great! I disappear on the June 10th to embark on my adventure into the abyss!

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Old 21st May 2003, 04:43
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Well, after having passed the Flight Skills Test, the driving test should be a doddle. 40 minutes with some old guy with a clipboard and no chance of a PFL or weather diversion! Just avoid stalling and spinning. I think that if you get a pilot license before you learn to drive, you're probably pretty safe in control of a vehicle and should get a license by default.

I'm no expert on USA flying, by the way, I only have about 8 hours in an N reg. Mind you, I won't let this stop me passing an hour or 10 talking about it!

By the way, your profile says your only 17. Unfortunately, one of the highlights of spending a few weeks in California is hanging out in bars impressing all the babes with your English accent (and a pilot license too!) - still, you'll be old enough in 4 years!
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Old enough in 3 years! 18th on Friday.

I think after 4 or 5hrs flying per day i'll be rather vertical until the next morning!

I've heard that the driving test is quite harsh compared to the flying skills test (and IMC, MEP et al). The only flying exam that comes to par being the IR (opr maybe CPL included)...We'll see how it goes!
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Can anybody tell me whether it is ok to allow a BFR to 'expire' or is it advisable to renew before it does so? Mine is up for renewal later this year and I do not currently have any plans to go the US to fly.
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