FAA Licence, what does it look like?
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Your BFR can expire, but your US certificate will expire with it. When you need your US ticket again, within reason, you can retake your BFR.
In any case, you do not need to go to the US to get a BFR. If you were based in France, I could do it for you.
In any case, you do not need to go to the US to get a BFR. If you were based in France, I could do it for you.
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Your BFR can expire, but your US certificate will expire with it. When you need your US ticket again, within reason, you can retake your BFR.
In other words, if I obtain my FAR §61.75 certificate in, say, 1996, but don't complete a BFR at that time and don't get around to flying in the USA until this year, all I have to do is complete a BFR now and then I am good to go.
If someone believes the above to be incorrect, please let me know, and please advise regarding which FAR you believe is applicable.
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With regard to the FSDO visit mentioned above - take note that the USA has, today (Tuesday 20th), increased its terrorism alert to "Extreme".
It could make life very difficult for non US citizens trying to get into Federal buildings (again).
It could make life very difficult for non US citizens trying to get into Federal buildings (again).
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Just to muddy the waters even further, I was assured by the guy at the FDSO that I didn't need a BFR at all to use my reciprocal FAA license so long as my JAA license and medical remained valid.
This struck me as a bit odd as I really didn't feel up to speed with the different procedures in the US so took a BFR anyway. Even the instructors at the flight school (NAC) couldn't agree which surprised me. What had they been doing for others in the same situation one wonders? Anyway, it's a good job I did a BFR because there was A LOT I thought I understood but didn't. I recommend this to anyone going for the first time as OBK is. It only consists of about 1 to 2 hrs in the air and an hour of informal questions in a classroom. You'd probably have to do somthing to a similar level (or better) anyway for the normal club/school checkout.
OBK, my reference to legal age referred to the USA where you can be thrown in jail for just being able to spell B-E-E-R before you are 21
Seriously, after drinking in pubs in UK since age of 14, the first time I was EVER refused alcohol was in Atlanta at age 25!
Fly a Cessna over downtown LA with 3 pax - no problem - relax over a bud afterward - are you crazy? Mad world indeed. Land of the free my @rse.
This struck me as a bit odd as I really didn't feel up to speed with the different procedures in the US so took a BFR anyway. Even the instructors at the flight school (NAC) couldn't agree which surprised me. What had they been doing for others in the same situation one wonders? Anyway, it's a good job I did a BFR because there was A LOT I thought I understood but didn't. I recommend this to anyone going for the first time as OBK is. It only consists of about 1 to 2 hrs in the air and an hour of informal questions in a classroom. You'd probably have to do somthing to a similar level (or better) anyway for the normal club/school checkout.
OBK, my reference to legal age referred to the USA where you can be thrown in jail for just being able to spell B-E-E-R before you are 21
Seriously, after drinking in pubs in UK since age of 14, the first time I was EVER refused alcohol was in Atlanta at age 25!Fly a Cessna over downtown LA with 3 pax - no problem - relax over a bud afterward - are you crazy? Mad world indeed. Land of the free my @rse.
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Relax over a bud?? You must be crazy !
...steer clear of the "Domestic" variety of American beers if you know whats good for you! Incidentally I was refused a packet of cigarettes in California becasue I didn't have ID....I was 30 ![maybe it was becasue I asked for a packet of fags???].....And my Mrs was refused a bottle of Vodka in Vons because it "was not the companies policy to take a [American] passport as proof of ID"...she was 26....work that one out !
By the way, you DO need a BFR even if issued with an FAA pilots certificate IOBO ICAO L. Its in the FARs somewhere, if you trawl through you should come across it. Also try the FAQs on the FAA website, which are a really good source of plain english Q&As.
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...steer clear of the "Domestic" variety of American beers if you know whats good for you! Incidentally I was refused a packet of cigarettes in California becasue I didn't have ID....I was 30 ![maybe it was becasue I asked for a packet of fags???].....And my Mrs was refused a bottle of Vodka in Vons because it "was not the companies policy to take a [American] passport as proof of ID"...she was 26....work that one out !By the way, you DO need a BFR even if issued with an FAA pilots certificate IOBO ICAO L. Its in the FARs somewhere, if you trawl through you should come across it. Also try the FAQs on the FAA website, which are a really good source of plain english Q&As.
Cheers
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BFR - Biennial Flight Review.
Long before JAA introduced the 'one hour with an instructor' the Americans had a similar system. In order to fly as PiC you must have had a flight with an instructor (BFR) within the preceeding 24 calendar months.
Don't worry about it - Rainbow aren't going to send you off in one of their aircraft without a checkout, which will, in effect, be your BFR.
Long before JAA introduced the 'one hour with an instructor' the Americans had a similar system. In order to fly as PiC you must have had a flight with an instructor (BFR) within the preceeding 24 calendar months.
Don't worry about it - Rainbow aren't going to send you off in one of their aircraft without a checkout, which will, in effect, be your BFR.
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Ahh I see! Yeh I've already booked the checkout a day before I take the aircraft.
As I understand it, I still need to go to the FSDO to get my licence though, is this after I have the BFR?
As I understand it, I still need to go to the FSDO to get my licence though, is this after I have the BFR?
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So I have to take a trip to FSDO before I goto Rainbow air?
I'm suprised I have never been told about this by rainbow air, I would of thought they would of warned me about these imperative things!
I'm suprised I have never been told about this by rainbow air, I would of thought they would of warned me about these imperative things!
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A bit of useless info
Notice the phrase "24 Calendar months"....so if you have a BFR on 1st June 2003, you do not need another until 30th June 2005....As an example:-
"If you are required to comply with a regulation under 14 CFR “24 calendar months after or from,” you have until the end of the 24th month after the month in which the time began to run. For example, §61.19 (14 CFR §61.19) provides an expiration date for a student pilot certificate of 24 calendar months from the month in which the student pilot certificate is issued. Therefore, if you obtain a student pilot certificate on January 2, 2000, it expires on January 31, 2002. "
As CM says, get your licence first thing, then do the club check out. This will satisfy the requirement for a BFR. By the way for the checkout, you'll need to fill out a lengthy piece of paper full of info about the aircraft, ie. T/O L/D distances, fuel capacity, emergency procedures etc....
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"If you are required to comply with a regulation under 14 CFR “24 calendar months after or from,” you have until the end of the 24th month after the month in which the time began to run. For example, §61.19 (14 CFR §61.19) provides an expiration date for a student pilot certificate of 24 calendar months from the month in which the student pilot certificate is issued. Therefore, if you obtain a student pilot certificate on January 2, 2000, it expires on January 31, 2002. "
As CM says, get your licence first thing, then do the club check out. This will satisfy the requirement for a BFR. By the way for the checkout, you'll need to fill out a lengthy piece of paper full of info about the aircraft, ie. T/O L/D distances, fuel capacity, emergency procedures etc....
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english al,
How far away from Long Beach is the Los Angeles FSDO? Is there a bus service to the FSDO or close to it?
I can't believe I had no idea that I had to do this! It's come as quite a shock that I wasn't even informed by FAA/CAA or Rainbow.
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obk
How far away from Long Beach is the Los Angeles FSDO? Is there a bus service to the FSDO or close to it?
I can't believe I had no idea that I had to do this! It's come as quite a shock that I wasn't even informed by FAA/CAA or Rainbow.
Cheers
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Why not go to the Long Beach FSDO:
5001 Airport Plaza Drive, Suite 100
Long Beach
CA 90815
Tel: (562) 420-1755
As for why haven't they told you - did you ever ask? Nobody can answer a question that is never spoken
5001 Airport Plaza Drive, Suite 100
Long Beach
CA 90815
Tel: (562) 420-1755
As for why haven't they told you - did you ever ask? Nobody can answer a question that is never spoken
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Is it too late now to change FSDO's? Can I ring up the FAA and ask them to send a confirmation letter to the long beach FSDO?
By the looks of it, that FSDO is at Long Beach airport? Sounds much more convenient!
I asked rainbow about this the other night but I'm still awaiting a reply. But I guess your right! I would of been in rather a state of shock if I hadn't of known before I went.
englishal, looks like I need to get out "Airplane Technical" again! where did you get Archer III details from?
Cheers fellas
obk
By the looks of it, that FSDO is at Long Beach airport? Sounds much more convenient!
I asked rainbow about this the other night but I'm still awaiting a reply. But I guess your right! I would of been in rather a state of shock if I hadn't of known before I went.
englishal, looks like I need to get out "Airplane Technical" again! where did you get Archer III details from?
Cheers fellas
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I don't know where the LA FSDO is, but I'm sure if you ask Rainbow nicely, then someone will either give you a lift there or arrange transport for you, or tell you how to get there. I imagine its within 30 miles of LGB, which is about 15 minutes up the highway the way they all drive over there
You can get the aircraft info from the POH for the aircraft itself, after you do your checkout, go and sit outside [watching the planes] and fill out your questionaire. There's also a pilot shop where you can buy the POH's [generic], so I'd recommend getting one. Makes for useful reference, though you should only use the aircrafts own POH for flight planning purposes [thought I'd get that bit in before someone else did].
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You can get the aircraft info from the POH for the aircraft itself, after you do your checkout, go and sit outside [watching the planes] and fill out your questionaire. There's also a pilot shop where you can buy the POH's [generic], so I'd recommend getting one. Makes for useful reference, though you should only use the aircrafts own POH for flight planning purposes [thought I'd get that bit in before someone else did
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deing asked:
Exactly the same thing happened to me - apparently the letter was sent two days after I faxed my forms across, but never arrived in the UK. A second letter also got lost, but the office is happy to fax a copy if you ask nicely. I found the people on the other end of [email protected] very helpful - just give them all your details (including PPL reference number, nominated FSDO) and they'll sort you out.
Enjoy the flying!
MD.
I send my application for verification a little over 2 months ago but still haven't got a reply. Anybody got their Phonenumber or email at hand so I can inquire
Enjoy the flying!
MD.
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Ah, so you get to use the POH whilst doing the questionaire? I imagine 939RJ's is more intact than the others lol! Anyway, if that's the case I might have a slightly better chance at getting a few correct answers!
Cheers al,
obk
Cheers al,
obk