PPL + night qualification
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From: Dubh linn...Eire
PPL + night qualification
Small query people.
I finally got my PPL license in the post today with an IMC rating on it, however I have also done a night "rating" or qualification I believe it to be. However since its not a rating,rather a qualification is it excluded from the license. There is absolutely no mention of it that I can find in the license even though I paid the cash for it. Therefore the only proof I have is in the logbook.Has there been a error somewhere or is this the norm????
I finally got my PPL license in the post today with an IMC rating on it, however I have also done a night "rating" or qualification I believe it to be. However since its not a rating,rather a qualification is it excluded from the license. There is absolutely no mention of it that I can find in the license even though I paid the cash for it. Therefore the only proof I have is in the logbook.Has there been a error somewhere or is this the norm????
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From: Salisbury
I found this when my license was issued - however it should be there somewhere in the small print (on the back) stating something along the lines of "the holder is entitled to use the priviliges of this license at night".
Before seeing the license, I would have thought that it would be boldly stated somewhere - but nevermind.
Before seeing the license, I would have thought that it would be boldly stated somewhere - but nevermind.
Why do it if it's not fun?
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From: Bournemouth
I don't have my license in front of me, so I can't give you the exact text, or the section numbers.
The "vanilla" JAR PPL does not mention night flying at all.
When you get your night qualification, the CAA send you a replacement for one particular page. The page looks absolutely identical, and it's only when you compare it word-for-word with the old one that you realise they've added the sentence "the holder of the license may exercise the privileges of the license at night" at the end of one of the sections of the license - pretty much as spils describes.
It will probably be a while before I have my license in front of me at the same time as being in front of a computer, but if no one else has found the information before then, I'll try to remember to post the details of exactly which section contains that text.
FFF
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The "vanilla" JAR PPL does not mention night flying at all.
When you get your night qualification, the CAA send you a replacement for one particular page. The page looks absolutely identical, and it's only when you compare it word-for-word with the old one that you realise they've added the sentence "the holder of the license may exercise the privileges of the license at night" at the end of one of the sections of the license - pretty much as spils describes.
It will probably be a while before I have my license in front of me at the same time as being in front of a computer, but if no one else has found the information before then, I'll try to remember to post the details of exactly which section contains that text.
FFF
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From: Salisbury
whilst we are on the topic of night flying - i got my PPL and night qual over in the states last year and since returning have not used my night rating at all. this is mainly due to the fact that the airbase i fly from does not permit night flying for civvies.
are there many places around that allow night flying as i really enjoyed it at the time??
are there many places around that allow night flying as i really enjoyed it at the time??
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From: UK
i got my JAR PPL with night rating over the summer as well. wasnt at the lovely OBA was it spils?
as for the night rating on the license, it does just say " the holder of this license may exercise the privileges at night" as mentioned before
as for the night rating on the license, it does just say " the holder of this license may exercise the privileges at night" as mentioned before
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From: Salisbury
FREDA - i trained just down the road (in american terms) at Britannia Flight Centre in Winter Haven, which since my return to the UK has had to close following the increased visa requirements over there. It was great trawling around FL though - and night flying was superb. Did you manage a trip to Venice? I'm hoping to go back later in the year to do some hour building and rent an aircraft from there - plus spend some time down at Sharky's!! 
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Spils
You may have to travel a bit to get some night flying in, a lot of airfields don't allow it anymore.
I did my night rating at BFC also (as well as a multi and a shedload of hours) back in 1999, great place. I then built up some night hours at Cardiff, perhaps you could try Aeros at Filton or one of the clubs in Bournemouth.
Regards
You may have to travel a bit to get some night flying in, a lot of airfields don't allow it anymore.
I did my night rating at BFC also (as well as a multi and a shedload of hours) back in 1999, great place. I then built up some night hours at Cardiff, perhaps you could try Aeros at Filton or one of the clubs in Bournemouth.
Regards
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From: europe
In my licence it states under
'Ratings included in licence'
Night
Instriment Metorological Conditions
Maybe that's because my licence is a UK ppl, not a JAA, however I thought you could only have an IMC rating on a UK ppl.
'Ratings included in licence'
Night
Instriment Metorological Conditions
Maybe that's because my licence is a UK ppl, not a JAA, however I thought you could only have an IMC rating on a UK ppl.
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From: Salisbury
GonvilleBromhead - must have missed that one but i'll keep an eye out in october.
are there any other recommendations for such trips whilst i'm over there. i did one trip with my instructor and a couple of others in a pa28 to clearwater on a sunday if memory serves, and that was fantastic - it seems half of florida heads that way on a weekend, and to miss all the traffic on the way back made it even more worthwhile!!
are there any other recommendations for such trips whilst i'm over there. i did one trip with my instructor and a couple of others in a pa28 to clearwater on a sunday if memory serves, and that was fantastic - it seems half of florida heads that way on a weekend, and to miss all the traffic on the way back made it even more worthwhile!!
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From: Dubh linn...Eire
Thanks for the replies.
Yea I missed it, it is printed on page 3 of 6 section IX,thanks.
As for flying over in florida, Venice is nice, I personally liked
La belle and Pohakee, La belle is a lovely little strip north of Immokalee, with an approach over the road for 14 which I loved.
Yea I missed it, it is printed on page 3 of 6 section IX,thanks.
As for flying over in florida, Venice is nice, I personally liked
La belle and Pohakee, La belle is a lovely little strip north of Immokalee, with an approach over the road for 14 which I loved.
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im very jealous that your going back! i did most of my flying up and around jacksonville really. i can recommend a visit to flager county airport if its an evening into night flight, cos the restaurant there serves the best steak i reckon ive ever eaten. the circuit can get a bit busy with people trying to get there early also, St Augustine is worth a visit, lots of aerobatic types buzzing around, but also a lot of non-radio aircraft so keep your eyes peeled, i caught an awacs there on the ground as well (i think its an awacs, twin turbo prob with huugee radar dome) as he had to wait for me in my lil c150 to land before he could take off can you imagine anything like that happening in england?
also, St Augustine is worth a visit, lots of aerobatic types buzzing around, but also a lot of non-radio aircraft so keep your eyes peeled, i caught an awacs there on the ground as well (i think its an awacs, twin turbo prob with huugee radar dome) as he had to wait for me in my lil c150 to land before he could take off can you imagine anything like that happening in england?
