Breakfast Patrols
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Breakfast Patrols
Does anybody remember Breakfast Patrols? Have they been banned or perhaps frowned upon?
I used to really enjoy them.
In case you are wondering...
The 'Target' airfield puts up a patrol of home based aviatiors (preferrably with excellent vision) who await the arrival of an undetermined number of visiting aircraft. Their arrival is usually constrained to an allocated time period. The 'intruders' must try to reach the vicinity of the airfield (confirmed by radioing in their callsign) without their registration being read by the patrol (and thusly announced on frequency).
Any successful 'Bandits' are rewarded with a free fry up.
I am guessing that you can already see why some BPs were fun and others were downright scary - there were those who confused reading reg letters with dogfighting etc.
One thing is for certain, you wouldn't find a bunch of aircraft with better lookouts than those engaged in BP-ing activities.
I used to really enjoy them.
In case you are wondering...
The 'Target' airfield puts up a patrol of home based aviatiors (preferrably with excellent vision) who await the arrival of an undetermined number of visiting aircraft. Their arrival is usually constrained to an allocated time period. The 'intruders' must try to reach the vicinity of the airfield (confirmed by radioing in their callsign) without their registration being read by the patrol (and thusly announced on frequency).
Any successful 'Bandits' are rewarded with a free fry up.
I am guessing that you can already see why some BPs were fun and others were downright scary - there were those who confused reading reg letters with dogfighting etc.
One thing is for certain, you wouldn't find a bunch of aircraft with better lookouts than those engaged in BP-ing activities.
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Hi M14P,
THe last one I participated in was as a 'defender' flying from Enstone - around 1995 I think. The raiders were a collecton of several aircraft from the Tiger Club.
Great flying by the Turbulents - great banter afterwards. All nutters!
I think that any club with the capacity to produce a lardy-git breakfast should organise one.
Far more interesting than just a fly-in.
HP
THe last one I participated in was as a 'defender' flying from Enstone - around 1995 I think. The raiders were a collecton of several aircraft from the Tiger Club.
Great flying by the Turbulents - great banter afterwards. All nutters!
I think that any club with the capacity to produce a lardy-git breakfast should organise one.
Far more interesting than just a fly-in.
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As one of those Tiger Club 'Nutters' I remember well the defence of Enstone. Hopelessy caught out near Upper H by a Grob I seem to remember? We were at our annual garden party over at Turweston at the time
Spooky! We were only talking about it yesterday and saying that no-one seems to do it anymore.
Anyone want to organise one?
Spooky! We were only talking about it yesterday and saying that no-one seems to do it anymore.
Anyone want to organise one?
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Leicester ran one last January, but it was weathered-off
Hoping they'll run another one soon.
Enstone isn't really in a position to run one during the winter as we don't have a cafe. I guess the lat time it was run there was a BBQ on the go???
Hoping they'll run another one soon.
Enstone isn't really in a position to run one during the winter as we don't have a cafe. I guess the lat time it was run there was a BBQ on the go???
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Seething in Norfolk runs two or three a year - normally poorly defended so breakfast is a good bet. We probably let in three for everyone we catch but then we only have a small 'defence force' - three aircraft lastr time I think.
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Hold on, let me get this right. I fly from Shoreham to Seething. As i get closer, you lot have to fly close to me to see my registration. So to aviod this, I am going to be doing some pretty erratic flying on the way in and should look like a scene from the battle of britain. If you don't get my number I get a free brekky????
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That is sort of how it works. Actually the erratic flying bit is not really required because ou don't normally get spotted. YOu can choose how erratic you want to be depending on how much you are keen to save the cost of breakfast.
Most stick with normal manouvres but either a low routing or a high routing to avoid being seen.
We don't go for full reg just type and colour so we don't need to get closer than 500ft (i think the 'proper rules' require reg as well but we don't).
We have had a Pitts playing the Battle of Britain bit to out manouvre the spotter but this is not a requirement!
That is sort of how it works. Actually the erratic flying bit is not really required because ou don't normally get spotted. YOu can choose how erratic you want to be depending on how much you are keen to save the cost of breakfast.
Most stick with normal manouvres but either a low routing or a high routing to avoid being seen.
We don't go for full reg just type and colour so we don't need to get closer than 500ft (i think the 'proper rules' require reg as well but we don't).
We have had a Pitts playing the Battle of Britain bit to out manouvre the spotter but this is not a requirement!
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Sounds like great fun to - but the bit about "breakfast" worries me. I'm not normally human till about midday. Do they do "Supper Patrols" or "Tea and tiffin" patrols?
I could go for some of that!
I could go for some of that!
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Hmmm.... sounds like some careful route planning and reading of Rule 5 is called for 
*mental image of a C152 flying twenty feet off the ground trying to sneak up on breakfast*
I'd be quite miffed if afterwards it was discovered that there weren't any poached eggs!
*mental image of a C152 flying twenty feet off the ground trying to sneak up on breakfast*
I'd be quite miffed if afterwards it was discovered that there weren't any poached eggs!
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I have "stolen" a breakfast at Leicester a couple of times in my trusty old Aeronca - sheer cunning instead of strategy worked for me.
FF - I'll be happy to do a stint as a defender in my faster machine next time if you like, I guess you code sectors and ensure that there is a continuity to the patrol? PS - thanks for Fri, hope I was contibutory and not just white noise!
Stik
FF - I'll be happy to do a stint as a defender in my faster machine next time if you like, I guess you code sectors and ensure that there is a continuity to the patrol? PS - thanks for Fri, hope I was contibutory and not just white noise!
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What you'd need is one of those cloaking devices like James Bond has for his car. Although could cause some havoc if everyone had one... come to think, maybe not such a grand idea, that...
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Hi Inspector!
It was me in the Grob over UH if that was you in the Turb. I really enjoyed it. I can't say that my girlfriend really enjoyed her lardy git breakfast after all that though....
You guys flew really well - all very safe and great banter afterwards. Nutters the lot of you!
Why not organise one at Headcorn? I'll be there, though not in the Grob (something muuuuch older!)
I think that a Breakfast Patrol is synonymous with The Tiger Club and maybe you should plan some invasions next year as well as a defence or two??
Please??!!
Happy to report that Old Warden is planning to charge a normal (£7 I think) landing fee in 03 as opposed to a charge per occupant to get into the museum. The thinking there is that they will attract a lot more vistors who just want a lunch destination.
Why not come on down to OW in the Spring?
I see a great synergy between the Tiger Club and OW.
Happy to give you a behind the scenes guided tour (if you pay to get in of course...!)
HP
It was me in the Grob over UH if that was you in the Turb. I really enjoyed it. I can't say that my girlfriend really enjoyed her lardy git breakfast after all that though....
You guys flew really well - all very safe and great banter afterwards. Nutters the lot of you!
Why not organise one at Headcorn? I'll be there, though not in the Grob (something muuuuch older!)
I think that a Breakfast Patrol is synonymous with The Tiger Club and maybe you should plan some invasions next year as well as a defence or two??
Please??!!
Happy to report that Old Warden is planning to charge a normal (£7 I think) landing fee in 03 as opposed to a charge per occupant to get into the museum. The thinking there is that they will attract a lot more vistors who just want a lunch destination.
Why not come on down to OW in the Spring?
I see a great synergy between the Tiger Club and OW.
Happy to give you a behind the scenes guided tour (if you pay to get in of course...!)
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Think military.....
Fit AMRAAM and a radar to your aircraft.
Fox 3 at 30nm
The defenders will be shot down before before you get into visual range and you'll get your free breakfast.
I think the yanks are going to trial this method at the Great Breakfast Patrol at 'Little Basra in the Marsh' airfield sometime in the next few months!
Joking aside, sounds like a great idea. When can we do it...?
Fox 3 at 30nm
The defenders will be shot down before before you get into visual range and you'll get your free breakfast.
I think the yanks are going to trial this method at the Great Breakfast Patrol at 'Little Basra in the Marsh' airfield sometime in the next few months!
Joking aside, sounds like a great idea. When can we do it...?
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I went to a couple of Breakfast Patrols at Goodwood back in the early 80's, and good fun they were as well.
Provided everyone realises it is done for entertainment and not combat things do not normally degenrate into low flying rule breaches or dangerous manouevres.
The most avoiding action I ever took was to turn towards the defender so as to hide the reg's on the side and under the wing of the machine. This usually results in the two of you chasing each other around a circle until someone gets bored (normally the attacker who is missing out on breakfast).
I was successful on both attacks but duly put the price of a breakfast in the Goodwood Club coffers to pay something towards the cost of running such an event.
I think many breakfast patrols have dissapeared for 'environmental' reasons, not wishing to disturb the natives below with aeroplanes rushing around over noise snesitive areas.
Regards
TMC
Provided everyone realises it is done for entertainment and not combat things do not normally degenrate into low flying rule breaches or dangerous manouevres.
The most avoiding action I ever took was to turn towards the defender so as to hide the reg's on the side and under the wing of the machine. This usually results in the two of you chasing each other around a circle until someone gets bored (normally the attacker who is missing out on breakfast).
I was successful on both attacks but duly put the price of a breakfast in the Goodwood Club coffers to pay something towards the cost of running such an event.
I think many breakfast patrols have dissapeared for 'environmental' reasons, not wishing to disturb the natives below with aeroplanes rushing around over noise snesitive areas.
Regards
TMC
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Well
Glad to see a positive response. I'm up for organising one if there are any takers and I have a few ideas about safety and extra interest too!
I'll post again when time is not an issue!
Glad to see a positive response. I'm up for organising one if there are any takers and I have a few ideas about safety and extra interest too!
I'll post again when time is not an issue!
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So let me get this straight, you fly in to an airfield, most probably in class G with no radar cover, obviously no position reports, deliberately flying in a manner not to be seen!
Are you lot crazy?
So the defender isn't so good, and as an attacker you've not seen him/her either?
Sounds bloody dangerous to me.
Weekend warriors.
Are you lot crazy?
So the defender isn't so good, and as an attacker you've not seen him/her either?
Sounds bloody dangerous to me.
Weekend warriors.