Garmin GPSMAP 196
Joined: Sep 2002
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From: London, UK
My 196 always records a single landing as just 1. As I understand it it works by detecting speed above a certain threshold, presumably with some hysteresis in the algorithm to avoid logging dozens of landings due to a a bit of speed wavering. Other GPS systems allow you to set this threshold, but on the 196 this is not an option.
Are people that are seeing multiple landings logged for each real landing flying very slow planes in strong headwinds or doing aerobatics?
As for the original discussion, I think the 196 is excellent. Its ground use capabilities are overrated in my opinion - an iPAQ or similar with a Bluetooth GPS makes a great road navigator. As I've said before my favourite setup is a 196 and an iPAQ with CAA charts and Memory-Map software.
Are people that are seeing multiple landings logged for each real landing flying very slow planes in strong headwinds or doing aerobatics?
As for the original discussion, I think the 196 is excellent. Its ground use capabilities are overrated in my opinion - an iPAQ or similar with a Bluetooth GPS makes a great road navigator. As I've said before my favourite setup is a 196 and an iPAQ with CAA charts and Memory-Map software.
Joined: Apr 2003
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From: Bordeaux, France
Garmin 196
Further to my post from last year, I have since bought a Garmin 196, and all I can say is that it is the dogs whatsits!!
The Extended centerlines are really useful, as is the panel page, and the ability to put in your own danger spots/areas with warning zone – very useful with all the TRAs springing up like a rash over France this last summer.
I have also used it in the car, and it helped me no end when trying to find my way around Paris when half of it was closed off one weekend over the summer, and also on trips to Holland/ Spain.
A mate has just bought a Yacht and I will undoubtably get the chance to try it out in marine mode soon……
The only thing is…. Garmin did have some errors in their aviation database software for europe back in April after all the new 2003 maps came out, I got my download from their website around this time, and noticed some errors, which I emailed them about. They then sent me a free download voucher for the next few months databases. By June/July update(my lastfreebee!) all the errors were fixed and I have yet to find any discrepancies so far….
…..also, it doesn’t show railways, useful in Europe.
But I still think its great.
Regards, SD..
BTW, I notice that my earlier post from last year says that I have not yet registered, that I don’t have any posts and that I am a guest?
What happened??
The Extended centerlines are really useful, as is the panel page, and the ability to put in your own danger spots/areas with warning zone – very useful with all the TRAs springing up like a rash over France this last summer.
I have also used it in the car, and it helped me no end when trying to find my way around Paris when half of it was closed off one weekend over the summer, and also on trips to Holland/ Spain.
A mate has just bought a Yacht and I will undoubtably get the chance to try it out in marine mode soon……
The only thing is…. Garmin did have some errors in their aviation database software for europe back in April after all the new 2003 maps came out, I got my download from their website around this time, and noticed some errors, which I emailed them about. They then sent me a free download voucher for the next few months databases. By June/July update(my lastfreebee!) all the errors were fixed and I have yet to find any discrepancies so far….
…..also, it doesn’t show railways, useful in Europe.
But I still think its great.
Regards, SD..
BTW, I notice that my earlier post from last year says that I have not yet registered, that I don’t have any posts and that I am a guest?
What happened??
Carbonfibre-based lifeform
Joined: Mar 2002
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From: London
druak,
I had wondered about this too, given that my CT does have a very low approach speed (50-55kts over the numbers) but the same thing happens in the SR20 (70-75kts over the numbers). In fact, my record of five 'Garmin landings' was in the SR20 at Beaune. I even have the video to prove that that one was in reality a greaser!
Never done any aeros in either type!
Are people that are seeing multiple landings logged for each real landing flying very slow planes in strong headwinds or doing aerobatics?
Never done any aeros in either type!
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 71
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From: Chessington, UK
Well, I said I'd give an update on whether that software upgrade solves the multiple landing problem....
I upgraded to V3.20 and almost immediately noticed a glaring bug - "Edit on map" didn't allow you to select lines in your route and "rubber-band" them. A couple of days later I went back to the Garmin site to see if they have a bug report form, and noticed a new version of software which said it fixed a fault with manual route editing. Installed that (V3.30), and presto!
Took a day trip to Duxford today. It says I did one landing at Duxford, and one landing when I returned to Redhill. Things are looking good!
I upgraded to V3.20 and almost immediately noticed a glaring bug - "Edit on map" didn't allow you to select lines in your route and "rubber-band" them. A couple of days later I went back to the Garmin site to see if they have a bug report form, and noticed a new version of software which said it fixed a fault with manual route editing. Installed that (V3.30), and presto!
Took a day trip to Duxford today. It says I did one landing at Duxford, and one landing when I returned to Redhill. Things are looking good!
