So near and yet so far!
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So near and yet so far!
Did the GFT today - 34 out of 35 ticks in boxes. Partial pass - I just have to do the PFL again 
Hopefull I will nail it next weekend.
Still, it's a lot better than doing the whole thing again!
Sennadog I heard you working Farnborough at one point - I think you were heading back to Redhill - hope you had a good flight to Sywell and back. I was somewhere around Kenley at the time, routing back to Fairoaks after doing a diversion to London City, bathed in sweat!
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Hopefull I will nail it next weekend.Still, it's a lot better than doing the whole thing again!
Sennadog I heard you working Farnborough at one point - I think you were heading back to Redhill - hope you had a good flight to Sywell and back. I was somewhere around Kenley at the time, routing back to Fairoaks after doing a diversion to London City, bathed in sweat!
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Well done mate - and don't worry about it. I also got a partial pass when I did mine last year: my problem was with the circuits, believe it or not! There was a solid XWind and gusty windshear on final approach on the day, and I didn't perform well! But the following weekend it was sorted out 
Re- PFLs, one examiner I know tells me he's never seen anyone do the well! You'll be right mate,
Re- PFLs, one examiner I know tells me he's never seen anyone do the well! You'll be right mate,
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Strewth. Your Examiner must be a hard nut to crack, failing you on PFLs!
Anyway, almost well done. If you just get some practice in this week with your instructor you'll walk it.
Anyway, almost well done. If you just get some practice in this week with your instructor you'll walk it.
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Thanks for your positive responses, folks!
Cheered me up a lot - I don't want to burn the 1/2 mil and flush the headset down the loo any more!
The trick for the PFL - apparently - is s*d the checks, make sure you get it in the field, so I'll spend an hour or so just getting the positioning and judgement right without thinking about restart or crash checks - sure, I can learn those sitting on the loo!
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Cheered me up a lot - I don't want to burn the 1/2 mil and flush the headset down the loo any more!
The trick for the PFL - apparently - is s*d the checks, make sure you get it in the field, so I'll spend an hour or so just getting the positioning and judgement right without thinking about restart or crash checks - sure, I can learn those sitting on the loo!
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Well done, SD. You're nearly there!
The most important thing my instructor tried to teach me for PFL is to be high. You can always lose height - add flaps, side-slip, S-turns, orbit, the list is endless. But if you're too low, you're screwed. Remember this, and you'll be fine next weekend!
Good luck!
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The most important thing my instructor tried to teach me for PFL is to be high. You can always lose height - add flaps, side-slip, S-turns, orbit, the list is endless. But if you're too low, you're screwed. Remember this, and you'll be fine next weekend!
Good luck!
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A few us PPLs might reflect that we passed our PFLs as much by good fortune as by being highly skilled at this stage!
Its also a good thing to keep practising post PPL, as one tends to become much more proficient as experience/skills increase.
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A few us PPLs might reflect that we passed our PFLs as much by good fortune as by being highly skilled at this stage!
Its also a good thing to keep practising post PPL, as one tends to become much more proficient as experience/skills increase.
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I'll third FFF on the height thing.
The second most important thing about PFLs is to put down in a field next to a pub, so you can have a pint while you wait to be collected
The second most important thing about PFLs is to put down in a field next to a pub, so you can have a pint while you wait to be collected
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One of the tips I was given was to pick three fields one for undershoot and your main choice then an overshoot field.
This way your examiner at least thinks you are forward planning. Seemed to work for me, but I was lucky and got one of those rare days with no wind.
I agree with the engine warming, and the side slipping as additional aids. It all shows you are going to be safe which is the main aspect of it.
Never having done it for real I don't really know if it works, but keep practicing it and it will be fine.
Well done on the 34, the extra one should now be a breeze.
One of the tips I was given was to pick three fields one for undershoot and your main choice then an overshoot field.
This way your examiner at least thinks you are forward planning. Seemed to work for me, but I was lucky and got one of those rare days with no wind.
I agree with the engine warming, and the side slipping as additional aids. It all shows you are going to be safe which is the main aspect of it.
Never having done it for real I don't really know if it works, but keep practicing it and it will be fine.
Well done on the 34, the extra one should now be a breeze.
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Oh, and the examiner isn't going to fail your engine unless he can see a good place to land, so if you cannot see anything you like on the left try a quick 30 degree bank to the right so you can see the field he spotted. It happens - I know one bloke at Goodwood who failed on PFLs and he messed up a left hand circuit into a tiny field when there was a disused airfield (Thorney Island) just down to the right
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The examiner isn't going to fail your engine unless he can see a good place to land
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