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Old 5th Oct 2002, 15:25
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Failed me Air Law!!

Really strange really, I did loads of reading and I did three practice papers and passed them all buy at least 5 points. But the CAA test was a bit different and trick questions and I failed by 4 points. Im back to the book this weekend and im going to try agian next week
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Aww Sh**e. Keep at it, at least you now know what to expect next time around. Chin up and all that
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I can't recommend highly enough the PPL Confuser.
This did me proud for the Air Law and Met exams, if you work your way through all the questions in it you have a very good chance indeed of passing.
( No connection with the author etc.... worse luck!)
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Unhappy

Bad luck

Let us know how you get on next time....

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Just keep at it and you'll be there.

I too recommend PPL confuser. Keep on having goes at it untill you get only couple or no mistake.
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A third vote for the PPL Confuser from me. There is no other way!

Don't panic yet. Air Law is the one that most people flunk first time around.

Good Luck with the rest of 'em
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Air Law Exams

I also failed my Air Law exam, managed to achieve an outstanding 74% .............. still cost me £30 to fail the damn thing, I can still remember the CFI`s comment - the price of failure is the same as the price of success - well thanks a bunch !

On the second attempt my result was 87 %, but only because I spent the following week with my head in the PPL Confuser.

I agree with previous comments on this topic - the CAA exam questions are not "worded" particularly well !
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Old 6th Oct 2002, 19:57
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Ive got a PPL Confuser type book. Its the one by the same people as the Jeremy Pratt books. Its got all the practice papers etc which I passed Never mind ive been on the book all weekend and studied some weak areas and im gunna do a couple of nights this week and take the test again this week.

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It was the only exam I failed. Not hard to fail such a boring and turgid subject. Used to send me to sleep reading Trevor Thom Air Law on the Tube! Amazingly I can still remember the important bits........

Good luck with the next go.
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Agree with the advice on the PPL confuser. I must admit, myself I didn't find Airlaw too bad but then I spent plenty of time browsing the book (Book 2, Jeremy Pratt) before taking the exam. It was my first topic I covered so I made sure I knew it thoroughly as I didn't want to chance failure on my first PPL related test.

Holloway, in what area (if any particular area) did you fall down? I found the worst bits were those which required you to remember numerical data as you cannot easily solve them with common sense if you don't know the answer from memory. The bits on VMC criteria versus VFR spring to mind

Good luck mate,


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Old 7th Oct 2002, 18:45
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Tough break!!!!!

get the PPL confuser by NEUNG SORNYING and have a look at the Trevor Thom air law book( and perhaps the rest of his series) as they are the bibles(personal opinion of course) but with and average of 90%+ on all exams I would strongly recommend this series.

Best of luck with the rest.
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being honest I fail on questions I didnt understand and trick questions. I think I looked at them too hard if that makes sense? Also I got a couple of questions about abreviations and I didnt know what they were. After looking at the book ALL weekend and this week I now know what I should of known but it will be a different test paper Ive gone through all the revision qusetions and I got about 90% of them right. Im going to do my test at the weekend I think

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Best of Luck!!
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The problem with the air law exam is that we all take it very early on in our flying training. We have not yet got to grips with the abbreviations and acronyms of the flying world and the whole thing is still like a foreign language. Much of what we are studying is well beyond our actual flying experience and is therefore 'theoretical.'

How on earth, for example, can you expect a brand new student to understand the difference between VMC minima and licence minima, when all he has done is fly a few hours in very benign weather conditions.

Holloway:

Don't worry about it being difficult. Don't worry about not understanding much of what you study. Use the confuser and talk to your instructor to pass the exam. But afterwards, during the rest of your PPL training and over the following couple of years, keep coming back to air law points. Look them up again. You'll find they all start to make sense (well, most of the, at least). Following air law will keep you not only legal, but also safe!

However, I would not reccomend trying to read the ANO. There are several books which make a much better job of explaining law than the ANO itself.
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Agree with all alphaalpha says. I'm in the unenviable position of having to re-sit the airlaw exam soon as I originally took it 15 months ago (got only 80%)

I was dreading this until I did the test questions in the confuser for the first time recently (I didn't have it last year) and realised that most of the stuff I didn't understand first time around, and just 'memorised', now seems to make a lot more sense.

Still don't give a damn what year the Chicago Convention was signed in though!
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Old 8th Oct 2002, 20:31
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Airlaw

Jeremy Pratt/AFE released a new air law keyfacts book early on this year - can't remember what it's called, but it's got all of the essentials in a "read on the loo" format - excellent!
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Hollyoaks,

Air Law, in common with HP&L, is about learning dates, facts and figures.

Most of it will help you fly safely, so it's worth learning.

I don't think there are any trick questions - a bit like that ITV programme - easy if you know the answer...

Better luck next time -- at least with ground exams you get a second chance
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Well, did you pass??

Walt,,
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It's all a load of rubbish anyway............

You will forget it all when you pass it thats what they want..........!
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Hi Holloway,

I had got to 14 hours when I was ready for my first solo and could not do it because I did not do my Medical or my Air Law exam. In my excitement, I found it difficult to focus because all I was thinking about was soloing although in the end, I passed first time with 85%.

I would also recommend the books: PPL Confuser; Air Law - Jeremy Pratt that previous posters have recommended.

Try not to rush through the topics by studying them parrott fashion; take your time and read and understand them before moving on.

Set yourself a realistic target and divide the number of topics over that period of time - you will find it much easier to manage.

All the best in your next try.

Flash0710 Said: It's all a load of rubbish anyway............

You will forget it all when you pass it thats what they want..........!
Flash0710,

How can you tell a PPL student that Air Law is a load of rubbish
when a huge percentage of fatal air accidents are down to pilots sometimes blatantly ignoring the rules of the air which you read about in Air Law?

Please don't post rubbish if you have not anything constructive to say.

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