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Old 19th Mar 2024, 06:47
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Red face FAA helicopter PPL type rating issue

Hi everyone;
is Bell 407 rating written on FAA Private Pilot License? Or is it like a SEL (Single Engine Land) rating for fixed wing licenses?
In my country (Turkey) any type rating is on the license until expired.
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Old 19th Mar 2024, 12:10
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FAA type ratings don't exist for anything below 12,500lbs (5700kg). An FAA Private certificate will let you fly anything that doesn't require a type rating, much like the EASA SEP rating for airplanes. So you can take your test in an R22 and jump straight into an A109.
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Thank you Rudestuff;
My understanding is any type below 12,500 lbs is not printed on the license but he/she still has to get an initial for the add-on type. Am I right?
or he/she is good to go with any type below 12.500 lbs as long as he can start the engine?
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As long as you can get it started you can fly it. Which sounds dodgy but actually it's a fairly self regulating system - no flight school will rent to you without a thorough check out and no insurance company will insure you without time on type or dual received. Bizarrely the only light helicopters requiring specific training in the US are the R22 and R44 by virtue of SFAR73 - implemented years ago to slow down Franks killing spree. They require specific training and experience and their own flight review. But a flight review in an R22 means you're good to go in an MD500 as well (Or an airplane for that matter, but that's another story..)
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Different in Canada then... Here, any fixed wing with the same number of engines (multi vs single), and same landing gear (land vs sea) under 12,000 pounds is automatically on a PPLA. However a PPLH must be endorsed for each helicopter type.
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thank you all. those were really helpful... regards...
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