Mode S Transponder
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From: north elmham,norfolk,uk
Mode S Transponder
Is it possible to remove my aircraft reg from a Garmin GTX330 mode S transponder?
I am flying VFR ONLY and do not wish my flights to be published on aircraft tracking sites.
I am flying VFR ONLY and do not wish my flights to be published on aircraft tracking sites.
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From: Only occasionally above FL50
I think you can set the transmitted ID to be anything you want. Commercial flights usually transmit their (variable) flight number. Whether it is legal to do so is quite another question. Transmitting your reg certainly makes life easier when talking to controllers because they have often identified you before you call them.
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From: DM33
I think you will find that, even with a blank aircraft registration, your flight can be tracked, and your aircraft identified, by the transmitted ICAO code that is unique to your aircraft.
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From: Ansião (PT)
There are lists out on the www that translate icao codes to registrations, too.
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From: Lost again...
I think you have to cite privacy and GDPR regulations as regards their use of data they hold about you.
You have to approach each site individually.
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From: DM33
"Q: How is ADS-B Exchange different than “other” flight tracking sites?
A: ADS-B Exchange operates a bit differently from other flight tracking sites. As a group of aviation enthusiasts, our primary goal is to answer the question of “what’s up there” rather than “is grandma’s flight on-time”.
A: ADS-B Exchange operates a bit differently from other flight tracking sites. As a group of aviation enthusiasts, our primary goal is to answer the question of “what’s up there” rather than “is grandma’s flight on-time”.
- You’ll never see an aircraft censored or “blocked” from our site. If one of our feeders is receiving it, the data will be there. This includes military, and other aircraft that attempt to be “unlisted”. Hint: to see some of the planes not shown by other sites, from the map page, right-hand column, Filters -> LADD -> Filter. This primarily applies to US registered aircraft."
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No idea why.
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Originally Posted by Groundloop
Of course, anyone who is actually in the UK and is supplying data to FR24 is actually breaking the law - not that many people seem to think that's important!
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Bloody stupid but I'll bet its the number one reason for people not switching their XPDR to alt or even not switching it on at all
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From: DM33
Not in anyway saying its the case for this poster but I've 'heard stories' of a bloke who after getting done infringing no longer even switches the thing on...I'm sure he isnt alone
Bloody stupid but I'll bet its the number one reason for people not switching their XPDR to alt or even not switching it on at all
Bloody stupid but I'll bet its the number one reason for people not switching their XPDR to alt or even not switching it on at all
The only legal option in USA is to have the system removed from the aircraft and have the removal recorded in the aircraft log by a qualified person. Not an option for me as ADS-B Out is required a my base airport.
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From: Down at the sharp pointy end, where all the weather is made.
In the UK, it's very difficult now to drive your car and not be detected by an Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) camera. It is illegal to remove or deface your number plate so it can't be read by these cameras. This is an interesting parallel to the UK law requiring you to have your transponder on when flying. If you don't like having your car 'pinged' by cameras, ride a push bike. If you don't like your aircraft to show on radar or other sites, don't fly it!
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I have heard a number of people say this but I've always wondered which bit of legislation is involved. Just curiosity really, but can you explain?
48 Interception and disclosure of messages
(1) A person commits an offence if, [without lawful authority] —
(a) he uses wireless telegraphy apparatus with intent to obtain information as to the contents, sender or addressee of a message (whether sent by means of wireless telegraphy or not) of which neither he nor a person on whose behalf he is acting is an intended recipient, or
(b )he discloses information as to the contents, sender or addressee of such a message.
(2) A person commits an offence under this section consisting in the disclosure of information only if the information disclosed by him is information that would not have come to his knowledge but for the use of wireless telegraphy apparatus by him or by another person.
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From: Down at the sharp pointy end, where all the weather is made.
is an intended recipient,
Someone needs to bring a test case to see if transponder transmissions are covered by the definition 'wireless telegraphy'. Strictly, 'telegraphy' means 'the long distance transmission of written messages' (from the ancient Greek).
It's also interesting that in the US (and Canada it seems) we can listen to ATC voice transmissions and get an instant replay on social media whenever there is an accident or incident, whereas in the UK, you never hear a peep - probably due to people being afraid of the WTA 2006.
Freedom of Information seems a lot free-er in some places than others...
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From: Tring, UK
I did some searching and found a FoI request asking how many investigations and prosecutions have been made so far under the 2006 Act. The answer was three investigations, but that covers the entire spectrum including police, armed forces, etc. Also, OFCOM made excuses and declined to say how many prosecutions, or even successful ones, had resulted, which leads me to think the answer is close to or at zero.
Listening to ATC at home? Technically illegal but probably alongside walking on the cracks in the pavement as something that would actually go to court...
Listening to ATC at home? Technically illegal but probably alongside walking on the cracks in the pavement as something that would actually go to court...
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From: Lost again...
In the UK, it's very difficult now to drive your car and not be detected by an Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) camera. It is illegal to remove or deface your number plate so it can't be read by these cameras. This is an interesting parallel to the UK law requiring you to have your transponder on when flying. If you don't like having your car 'pinged' by cameras, ride a push bike. If you don't like your aircraft to show on radar or other sites, don't fly it!
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Your comparison is not especially valid.