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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 08:03
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Impressive - sincere congrats to Zara - it just being 2021/early '22 must have made things more difficult.
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Originally Posted by megan
Care to explain the reasons behind your statement?
Attaining so much performance from only 100HP can only be achieved by squeezing the last bit out of everything; that must include using a very thin wing with very finely finished surfaces ("laminar flow"). Just like with the Rutan canards, even a handful of dead bugs on the leading edge may seriously affect performance, including stall behaviour. As may rain.

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I am a little lost as to what actually constitutes a " Round the World " flight. Zara Rutherford certainly qualified in my understanding by passing through two antipodal points. I.e. directly opposite each other on the globe.
Looking at another accepted claimant I noticed that, whilst admirable, the entire track covered was well up in the Northern Hemisphere but also included a seeming out ( and return?) overland dog leg to make up the mileage . i.e. making the distance equivalent to a circumnavigation of the Earth,
By extrapolating this logic ad absurdum you could surely take off in Northern Europe, go once around the Arctic Circle ( or even further North to just go round the Pole and back ) then fly back around Europe for a few legs to make up the total equivalent distance to then claim a "Round the World " flight.
I look forward to being enlightened .

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So what was the episode Auxtank referred to?

Here's another article that was published after her press conference in Belgium.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...o-record-books

Based on this and two NYT articles (that I won't link to because moderators will then delete the whole post because you see a registration request if you have tried to access more than three articles in that month on your browser), I have a couple of mostly technical questions:

- What is the fuel consumption per hour or per 100 km in cruise (ie. at 130 kn = 250 km/h)? The engine seems to use 18.5 l/h at 75% power https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotax_912, but at what power is it used in cruise?

- The engine likes to run on unleaded automobile fuel, which is known to vary from country to country. Is MOGAS now routinely available at big and small airfields around the world and is there a certain standard to be met? I suppose she couldn't just hitchhike to the next gas station with a jerrycan.

- What is the failure rate of the engine, apparaently a Rotax 912ULS? The manual does not seem reassuring: "The manual states that Rotax gives no assurances that the engine is suitable for use in any aircraft, and that the engine may seize or stall at any time, which could lead to a crash landing."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotax_912

- What is the difference between the certified and the uncertified version other than the paperwork? The warning apparently applies to both versions.


- She states that she was worried about an emergency landing in Siberia because she didn't have the survival gear to survive -35° for hours on end. What about the overwater flights - did she have the kind of cold suit donned by the pilots of the dual BN2 ferry flight for overwater legs? Would a cold suit also help against dry cold air?
https://airlebnis.homepage.t-online.de/serv01.htm
edit: I just realized the picture with the cold suits does not always load, so here's a direct link https://airlebnis.homepage.t-online....utzanzuege.jpg

- Both NYT articles stress that flying in the North Atlantic at 200 ft to stay below clouds was not a very safe thing to do (presumably because of loss of radio contact and lack of time/altitude to troubleshoot any occurence). Would it have been safer to fly into clouds no matter what the certification says, given that no traffic was to be expected at that altitude in that area?

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Originally Posted by meleagertoo
Since it was Zara's father who was instrumental in showing up that particular charlatan I can't help wonderning if this stunt was in some way a response to that matter.
At least I think it reassures us that it really was done solo and unaccompanied by a support crew.
Good points, well made.

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what actually constitutes a " Round the World " flight
The rules, in general, are, the course shall be a closed circuit course that crosses all meridians, the course distance from the start point through each control point to the finish point shall not be less than 36,770 km, all control points shall lie at latitudes less than 66 degrees 33 minutes.
The engine seems to use 18.5 l/h at 75% power, but at what power is it used in cruise
The flight manual is available on the aircraft manufactures web site should you wish to obtain performance numbers.
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Many Thanks Megan for the clarification on the acceptance of "round the world" flying!
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A royal fan* of Zara's achievement (*used to fly his own R44 until about ten years ago)
(in the country's third official language)
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Good Girl.
What a Star.
Really hope she gets given the cup with the eagle on it.
She absolutely has earned it.
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The RTW requirements as earlier mentioned are those of the FAI (distance required is the Tropic of Cancer/Capricorn). This always struck me as odd, not 'even' being the length of the equator.

The Guinness requirements are below. They're a little odd and even sometimes unnecessary - for example paragraph K renders paragraph G unnecessary. It's also worth noting that they are the same whether flying, boating, cycling or using a pogo stick.

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Sam, for we anoraks did Zara fly the aircraft in an over load condition as done with many of these type of flights? If so what gross was used, also what fuel tankage? Brilliant effort.
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@megan, even if if this were not about a young lady I would classify your questions as highly indiscreet.
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She was frequently at approximately gross (472.5KG), with full fuel in wings and about 50L additional in the rear.

Life was made easier than normal by she having almost no luggage, stripping out most of the rear (as solo, not needed), and herself only weighing 50kgs!
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The additional 50L easily translates to more than 2.5 hours of added endurance. I haven't looked up the figures but the 'traditional' overloaded configurations do not appear to be necessary if you use an engine with a low enough fuel burn. The C172 that Travis Ludlow used burns around 19.4L/hour at 70% power (TAE-125 engine), equating to just over 9 hours endurance (178L usable).

Long range tanks on the Shark UL can hold 150L, plus the additional 50L in the backseat. At medium cruise (65%) the Rotax burns 18L/hour so that is just over 11 hours of endurance at 135KT CAS. There is also a note in the AFM stating that the aircraft has been designed and tested for 600kg AUW but the manual contains limits based on the certification as a Czech UL so that is where the 472.5kg MTOW comes from. Even though you should not use a higher take off weight than the AFM limit of 472.5kg, I guess it would be safer to overload this type than a different type that has been designed for the MTOW in the books.

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Originally Posted by Sam Rutherford
She was frequently at approximately gross (472.5KG), with full fuel in wings and about 50L additional in the rear.

Life was made easier than normal by she having almost no luggage, stripping out most of the rear (as solo, not needed), and herself only weighing 50kgs!
Not needing to carry a spare pilot probably helped as well .....

Brilliant achievement!
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even if if this were not about a young lady I would classify your questions as highly indiscreet
Jan, authorities often give approval for aircraft to operate at weights in excess of the flight manual limit, ferry flying of GA aircraft is one such area, as is record attempts. FAA § 91.323 allows certain aircraft in Alaska to operate at 115% of the flight manual limit, ferry pilot Louise Sacchi writes that the normal limit she was permitted to use was 110%.
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Given my previous with a certain so called solo pilot I have kept away from aviation forums for some time so it came as shock to see Zara in the news and belatedly discovering she is Sam Rutherford's daughter. What a great and genuine solo adventure. I hope the HCAP and others now give her the recognition she deserves.
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Well done to her but her sex is of no relevance, surely? If she'd been a boy it would still be a very commendable achievement.
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Originally Posted by Russell Gulch
If she'd been a boy it would still be a very commendable achievement.
Well, we'll soon all know if there's any difference Teenage pilot aims to break sister’s round-the-world solo flight record
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Well, good luck, will be crossing my fingers.

I'd still be grateful if a kind and knowledgeable soul could answer my questions on failure rate of the engine, precautions for overwater segments, safest approach when faced with low cloud cover (i.e. fly at 200 ft or intentionally fly into clouds), and grades MOGAS and availability at remote airfields around the world.
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