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Old 6th Jan 2022, 12:07
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Originally Posted by shorehamite View Post
Getting back to the original thread, i have just found SRG2140 on the internet, regarding a FAA licence holder flying in UK airspace.
Is this still a valid document?, it only seems to mention a verbal check , " confirmation of theoretical knowledge" by an examiner, rather than doing two written exams as mentioned by Ghengis.
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Not an expert, but SRG2140 is or was the procedure necessary to be validated for one year. I think you are supposed to convert to a local license after or during that. Somebody will correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 6th Jan 2022, 12:25
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Originally Posted by shorehamite View Post
Getting back to the original thread, i have just found SRG2140 on the internet, regarding a FAA licence holder flying in UK airspace.
Is this still a valid document?, it only seems to mention a verbal check , " confirmation of theoretical knowledge" by an examiner, rather than doing two written exams as mentioned by Ghengis.
Your knowledge gratefully appreciated.
You have to differentiate here between validation and issue of a new licence.

SRG2140 is what I mentioned in my original post as "You can get a briefing by an instructor (we call then FIs, "CFI" means Chief Flying Instructor here) and an examiner sign off that you understand how to fly in the UK - that will do you for a year.", however this is only valid for a year, and not renewable.

Hence my recommendation that the OP, who says he's going to be in the UK for at-least 3 years, just dives in and gets a UK PPL, following the procedure I described, since he'll need to do that at some point anyhow.

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Old 6th Jan 2022, 16:53
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Originally Posted by Genghis the Engineer
however this is only valid for a year, and not renewable.
The one-year limitation on validations is made in article 4(3) of Commission Delegated Regulation (EU) 2020/723, as retained and amended by the UK (here):

Article 4
General provisions for validation of licences
...
3. The validation of a licence shall have a validity period, which
does not exceed one year, and its privileges shall only be exercised
as long as the licence remains valid.

The CAA may extend the validity only once and only by a maximum of
one year, if during the validity period the pilot has ...


Whereas article 8(3) establishes a type of validation that will be applied for using form SRG2141:

Article 8
Validation of pilot licences for specific tasks of limited duration
...
3. By way of derogation from the provisions of Articles 4 to 7, the
CAA may validate a licence which is equivalent to one of those
referred to in paragraph 2 and issued in compliance with the
requirements of Annex 1 to the Chicago Convention by a third country
for a maximum of 28 days per calendar year for specific non-commercial
tasks, provided that the applicant complies with ...


The requirements include undertaking acclimatisation flying with an appropriate instructor.

Again, this validation is applied for using form SRG2141. The form SRG2140 was associated with an exemption issued by UK CAA for US pilot certificate holders under ORS4 No. 1490 (archived copy) which expired a little over a fortnight ago. That exemption did not require the applicant to complete acclimatisation flying.

Has the CAA adopted a policy of limiting these art 8(3) validations to one year, which would seem to be at odds with the first clause in para 3?
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