NIMBY compaints to the airfield
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What a brilliant idea.
Every time I see an aeroplane flying in the sky from now on I will phone the nearest airfield (because thats where it came from) and complain it did not fly close enough to my current location and can it please come back and do it again.
Perhaps we can have a website of locations where people specifically want us to pass over their houses (within the limits of rule 5), where people could book aerobatics displays over their parties, where farmers are actually quite keen to have you perfroming pfls into their fields on condition they phone the local field and say how much they enjoy/approve of the freedom of the skies.
Does this mean if the number of postive complaints outweigh the negatives councils will not be able to close airfields again or would one complaints have to have 5 happy people to even it out?
Last weekend I was on a golf course near biggin and the BBMF came over at about 500' ish in a nice right bank formation. Marvelous and then the bu**ers went and did it again, fantastic.
In the falklands the locals used to complain if the phantoms didn't come over their houses at 10 feet daily. They thought they might have gone home and those chappies with the pucaras might return.
Could this be the saviour of aviation
Every time I see an aeroplane flying in the sky from now on I will phone the nearest airfield (because thats where it came from) and complain it did not fly close enough to my current location and can it please come back and do it again.
Perhaps we can have a website of locations where people specifically want us to pass over their houses (within the limits of rule 5), where people could book aerobatics displays over their parties, where farmers are actually quite keen to have you perfroming pfls into their fields on condition they phone the local field and say how much they enjoy/approve of the freedom of the skies.
Does this mean if the number of postive complaints outweigh the negatives councils will not be able to close airfields again or would one complaints have to have 5 happy people to even it out?
Last weekend I was on a golf course near biggin and the BBMF came over at about 500' ish in a nice right bank formation. Marvelous and then the bu**ers went and did it again, fantastic.
In the falklands the locals used to complain if the phantoms didn't come over their houses at 10 feet daily. They thought they might have gone home and those chappies with the pucaras might return.
Could this be the saviour of aviation
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Re. the 'P*ss Off Biggles' story, am I right in thinking that this particular barn-roof was recently immortalised on RAF Valley's simulators, complete with said motif?
Jx
Re. the 'P*ss Off Biggles' story, am I right in thinking that this particular barn-roof was recently immortalised on RAF Valley's simulators, complete with said motif?
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Not meaning to go down the Monty Python shoe-box theme but the best complaint 
I ever received was this:
(I used to work shifts in airfield ops).
02:30 and phone rings - male voice asks who I am;
- Duty Manager-
My mum wants to speak to you;
And who might that be?
When told
Not her again!!
So she rambled on for a good 20 minutes and we had not had a single movement for the past hour. Called ATC on the other line while half listening to her monologue;
Anything passed about 8 miles west of here in last 10 minutes, I ask.
Only an Electra at FL. 180
And she was blaming me and my wonderful employer
I ever received was this:(I used to work shifts in airfield ops).
02:30 and phone rings - male voice asks who I am;
- Duty Manager-
My mum wants to speak to you;
And who might that be?
When told
Not her again!!So she rambled on for a good 20 minutes and we had not had a single movement for the past hour. Called ATC on the other line while half listening to her monologue;
Anything passed about 8 miles west of here in last 10 minutes, I ask.
Only an Electra at FL. 180
And she was blaming me and my wonderful employer
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Had a couple of NIMBYs last night about aeros over their village.
Sent a long email about perspective from the ground to the 1500' base/high intenstity training/its not hooliganism/will look into it/ please feel free to call me any time/want to live peacefully together etc etc.
Got an email straight back about how, in reality, it wasn't quite over the village but over the airfied and how his three young kids loved the show!!
Serious Point
Most noise complaints are off the cuff and therefore pretty emotional. I take their address and send them a letter or email. Then they've calmed down and, with a few consessions and a look at the real facts, everyones happy.
I always resist the temptation to explain that if they lodge a formal complaint, they are legally obliged to tell prospective buyers of their house about why they made the complaint.
I also resist any temptation to tell them to go f** themselves, the miserable fun-hating, whinning b)(*&^%s.
Fly a Katana? - thought you couldn't swear on this forum!!!!
Sent a long email about perspective from the ground to the 1500' base/high intenstity training/its not hooliganism/will look into it/ please feel free to call me any time/want to live peacefully together etc etc.
Got an email straight back about how, in reality, it wasn't quite over the village but over the airfied and how his three young kids loved the show!!
Serious Point
Most noise complaints are off the cuff and therefore pretty emotional. I take their address and send them a letter or email. Then they've calmed down and, with a few consessions and a look at the real facts, everyones happy.
I always resist the temptation to explain that if they lodge a formal complaint, they are legally obliged to tell prospective buyers of their house about why they made the complaint.
I also resist any temptation to tell them to go f** themselves, the miserable fun-hating, whinning b)(*&^%s.
Fly a Katana? - thought you couldn't swear on this forum!!!!
Jinx, sadly according to my logbook the last time I went to Valley was 7 years ago (2 formation sorties in Hawks in April of 1995), so my recent knowledge isn't. But I sincerely hope so, it deserves to.
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We have our fair share of NIMBYS, but we do have a reasonable "understanding" with them, ironically, the 2 biggest sources of complaint are the 2 they wouldn't complain about if they were personally involved - the police and ambulance helicopters.
Re the farmer who decorated his barn roof for all to see, last summer, a "crop circle" appeared in a barley field at the end of one of the runways in the form of a huge todger with tackle.
Quite who or what it (the hidden message) was aimed at, I don't know!
Re the farmer who decorated his barn roof for all to see, last summer, a "crop circle" appeared in a barley field at the end of one of the runways in the form of a huge todger with tackle.
Quite who or what it (the hidden message) was aimed at, I don't know!
Man formally known as, I complied with several noise requests in the balmy Islas Malvinas. There were a couple of farmers who used to complain, but they were of Argentine descent so we flew over them anyway! They shouldn't have picked the losing side!!!
