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Old 30th Mar 2020, 15:41
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Happily, I have my planes and fuel at home, so zero social interaction to go flying. I just stay very close to home, so as to not involve anyone else.

Having been a first responder for 27 years, I am well aware of the extra burden these services are carrying now. So I think about how not to burden the system. I will carefully prevent crashing my plane, having a heart attack, or injuring myself cutting firewood. The current circumstances certainly have my thinking how to not need public assistance!
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Old 30th Mar 2020, 21:25
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Wow. Please get how serious this is and stay inside.

Last time I checked recreational flying is not essential and flight schools do not employ key workers. Leaving your house to either is against the instructions.

I get the idea you can fly from a field without any social interaction, but every flight is not risk free and you needing ICU because of an engine failure is right now a really poor decision on your part.

A real shame for a hobby full of methodical, logical people that some think it’s ok to still fly. Stay at home, follow the rules, read up on the theory, teach others online, challenge yourselves in different ways for a few months. You might save someone else’s life.
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Old 31st Mar 2020, 00:38
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Yeah, happily I have flown both airplanes recently enough that they can sit for a while as the world sees how this goes.

In the mean time;

teach others online, challenge yourselves in different ways for a few months.
Yes! I have been very surprised at how little discussion there has been in this forum recently, with seemingly excess resource of experienced pilots available to answer questions. This would be an excellent time for those newer pilots with questions to pose them....




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Old 31st Mar 2020, 19:40
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According to a Govt. spokesman, private (what they describe as recreational) flying must now stop in GB. As usual they make some exceptions. The CAA have more detail.
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My medical expires in 4 weeks. Before seeing the AME, I need to see the cardio man in Wimpole street. Central London and a 30 mile train and tube trip - a strict no-no

So medical will expire and as this is likely to last for 3 - 6 months .. I guess I'll be looking to revalidate and get a medical in October if I'm lucky, just in time for winter.. Fortunately my SEP is valid until Jan 2022.

Just hope my club at Redhill is still about when we recommence..
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Old 1st Apr 2020, 13:24
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The CAA have extended the validity for Class 1 medicals and checks for commercial licenses...I think by 6 months. An announcement on class 2 and PPL licenses is expected.
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Old 1st Apr 2020, 14:52
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Originally Posted by homonculus
The CAA have extended the validity for Class 1 medicals and checks for commercial licenses...I think by 6 months. An announcement on class 2 and PPL licenses is expected.
Hmm.... I've read and re-read the CAA docs on this, and it seems to me that they are always referring to Part ORO only, not anyone else. It's all "subject to" in various paragraphs, which then seem to refer to Part ORO only. I may have interpreted this all incorrectly, but it could have been made a bit clearer.
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Old 1st Apr 2020, 15:27
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Originally Posted by Capt Kremmen
According to a Govt. spokesman, private (what they describe as recreational) flying must now stop in GB. As usual they make some exceptions. The CAA have more detail.
Not specifically banned, as you can see GA are being good little boys and the government don't see a need to enforce a ban.
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...neral-aviation
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Old 1st Apr 2020, 15:33
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ak7274 - are you sure that's what it says?

Correct FTD, as homunculus says, the ORS for Part-ORA and specifically for GA is not yet published.

I was interested to read GAGuy's comment about his college age daughter saying that 'Gen-Z'er's' are apparently calling this the "Bye, Bye Boomer" virus which, although I'm sure meant as a tongue-in-cheek remark, it's interesting to reflect that the about to be opened Nightingale Hospital in London's ExCel centre is likely to be occupied by largely younger patients - we have 19 & 20 year olds with no previous history of diabetes, asthma, obesity or other indicators as seen in most older victims currently in the big London hospitals. The reality is that this is now affecting all age groups and theories as to what we thought might have been strong indicators of further chronic deterioration are now largely redundant. I really do hope the younger generation understand this and heed the Government's advice.
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Old 1st Apr 2020, 16:26
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I assume that is what it says, after all it is from the government.
You can see what it says yourself. Aiui the reason for not banning GA absolutely is that the government won't need to pass legislation to repeal a ban. As GA is being so well self disciplined, they see no need.
Please read it.
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Yup, just read it...... Again and that's what it said.
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Old 1st Apr 2020, 21:24
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As flying is not a great idea right now, it occurred to me today that some overdue runway maintenance is a good idea! So I trenched in some drainage pipe in with the excavator this afternoon. By the time it's socially right to fly, I should have grass growing over the trench! Perfect! Now, on to the annual inspection....
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Old 2nd Apr 2020, 16:57
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Originally Posted by ak7274
Not specifically banned, as you can see GA are being good little boys and the government don't see a need to enforce a ban.
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...neral-aviation
At no point in my comment did I mention that GA in GB was 'banned'. Far from it. The Govt. and the CAA have asked that all GA or, as they put it, recreational flying, should cease for the foreseeable future.





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Old 2nd Apr 2020, 19:21
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Sorry. I must have misunderstood the word "must".
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Old 2nd Apr 2020, 19:33
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Originally Posted by ak7274
Sorry. I must have misunderstood the word "must".
That's ok. Easily done.
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Old 3rd Apr 2020, 02:05
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Originally Posted by homonculus
So I presume you drive to the airfield never needing to refuel, pay tolls, open gates and never break down. Get the aircraft out single handed. Refuel yourself. Go flying without any maintenance or ATC. Never need support and never have an accident. no food or drink.

You clean your aircraft completely including removing floor panels and washing with disinfectant that you have approval for. You have a policy for absorbant surfaces that is approved by a virologist.

The reality is you have a contaminated aircraft and you are so selfish you are requiring other people to break isolation or stay-ay-home and put themselves at risk for your selfish hobby. No wonder the US has overtaken China in cases. Every time you do this another person's risk of dying increases. Here in the UK we are struggling to cope, Young healthy people are dying and many healthcare workers will die - one of my OR nurses died yesterday. The US in some states is far worse and California is one of them. I try not to rant on pprune but may i make an exception here please?
Good grief, lots of judgement here.

Let me address your concerns one at a time. I've flown once in the last month to maintain currency, which in California is designated a necessary activity. I live 3 miles from the airfield and don't interact with anyone there or back. The planes are on tie-downs out in the open. The field is a designated critical resource, so fully staffed whether I show up or not. The gas truck is sitting mostly idle. AJ the fueler and I stay a good 6' apart. He's pretty bored and was looking for someone to say Hi to. I disinfected the plane myself per club guidelines and with the club materials. I do admit I didn't pull up the floorboards or dismantle the engine. By my quick calculation, the plane has flown maybe 3 hours in the last 3 weeks. Not really spring break in Ft. Lauderdale.
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Old 3rd Apr 2020, 08:18
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closed as of a few weeks ago "in line with gov. advice!"
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Old 3rd Apr 2020, 11:11
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Within the latest Skywise newsletter the CAA draw the distinction between "private" and "recreational" flying. Within GA there are many "private" flights that are not commercial and and may well be undertaken by key workers including some farmers, engineers etc as well as health care workers. Much safer than sharing public transport.
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