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Old 11th Sep 2019, 12:36
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There was a lady here in Barbados who did her PPL in a twin Comanche some years ago - it happened to be the airplane her husband owned - so goes to show you can do it in something rather complex.
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Old 11th Sep 2019, 15:24
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Another (slightly facetious) point is that, if you fly retractable, you will join the company of:
  • Those that have
  • Those that will
  • Those that will again
Thankfully I'm still in the second group.

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Old 12th Sep 2019, 11:15
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if you fly retractable
Certainly requires discipline, a complete awareness of your configuration, and I train this with great emphasis. You must be deliberate as to your landing gear selection, and not make assumptions. I regularly takeoff and land one of my planes with the wheels either extended or retracted as appropriate to the surface. I am very careful about double checking landing gear position for landing by literally speaking it out loud twice before each landing. Attempting to take off with the landing gear in the wrong position is sort of a self solving problem, and although a spectacle, not really a safety concern. It does come down to training and the extra training requirements for a more complex airplane though...
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Old 12th Sep 2019, 18:26
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Originally Posted by Pilot DAR View Post
You must be deliberate as to your landing gear selection, and not make assumptions.
I have decided that I will solve this one by never flying an amphibian.
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Old 12th Sep 2019, 19:20
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I have decided that I will solve this one by never flying an amphibian
The same considerations apply to wheel/ski planes as well. It is everyone's choice to accept or avoid the complexity they're comfortable with. As for amphibians, it's a super way to not have to leave an expensive plane tied to a dock, corroding in the water, banging the floats, and worrying if it's being blown over in a storm. There are benefits and burdens with all types.
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Old 12th Sep 2019, 19:42
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Plenty of people flying gliders go to single seat retractable gear machines after about fifteen hours or so. No alarms, just memory check list. They seem to manage just fine.
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Old 12th Sep 2019, 23:05
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They seem to manage just fine.
Well, most do. Years ago, my club had a member who owned a Phoebus C, which he routinely landed gear-up. A spectacular sight on a hard runway, as the glider was followed by a plume of white dust.

Eventually, he sold the Phoebus and bought a Glasflügel Mosquito, which he landed gear-up on his first flight!
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