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Old 5th Oct 2018, 22:04
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Originally Posted by airpolice View Post
So, now it becomes clearer that this is no longer about whether she was solo or not.

This (campaign) is all about internal processes at the LAA*.



* In other words another attempt to deflect from the real issues of deception.


We've seen indignation. We've seen threats. We've seen 'woe is me'. We've seen the sacrificial website designer falling on his sword. When is TCT going to realise that answers, truthful answers, are the only thing that will make this go away?

As for her being ambushed at the 2016 AGM what did she want, written warning from each of her fellow members advising her of how they intended to vote? Isn't that the same as her not telling the membership that she and her entourage were going to be there to try to negate entirely legal proxy votes?

Her referral to "our LAA" is just bull. She has no interest in the Association whatsoever other than what awards she can force from it to prop up her bizarre 'turn of the last century' view of the world and how those awards will look on the movie poster. Her treatment of Brian Davies has been nothing short of abominable and her language, as 9 lives says, gives the game away. It's all about her.

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Old 5th Oct 2018, 23:22
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75% of those who attended the meeting and heard me speak voted against a hostile and personal motion but it passed by virtue of an unprecedented volume of proxy votes. A post of 02 October 2018 on this forum indicates how that could be accomplished.
Ah yes, but that was all before the discovery of the Herne Bay video and also prior to confirmation of Ewald being smuggled across the channel in the Piper Archer (or more appropriately Pathfinder)
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 08:21
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If indeed this is “all about internal processes at the LAA* and she has no interest in the award then the motion should have been written in a completely different manner or she should have pressed her rock solid case in the background, with the lawyers. Seeking to divide those of us who form the active body of the LAA by having a divisive and controversial vote will ensure only that the bitter taste of her lies and obfuscation are carried forward. If you wish to change process for the future then bringing the LAA into disrepute is not the way to do it, this smacks of internal axe grinding at high level within the LAA combined with the need for Tracey to garner limelight in advance of the new film. My vote is cast and no further last minute contributions by Tracey will sway that, in great part because it is plain to see that she simply doesn’t understand the meaning of the word honest. I tried to explain the whole sorry saga and difference between solo and sole to my 14 year old daughter that flys solo (That’s alone, unaccompanied, on her own Tracey)and she simply said “ if she wasn’t alone in the cockpit then she wasn’t solo” simple really Tracey, you lied and even the young women you apparently seek to inspire can see right through you.

My daughter has just come back to me and said, Tracey is an “Equivocator”, I had to look it up but it’s Tracey to a tee.

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Old 6th Oct 2018, 10:13
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Tracey is an “Equivocator”
Shouldn’t that be “Equivocatrix”.......
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 10:37
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Originally Posted by Jonzarno View Post


Shouldn’t that be “Equivocatrix”.......
i think it’s plain to see that she has no care for the truth or anyone or anything but herself. She is now doing a massive disservice to light aviation, something I suspect for which she will never now be forgiven.
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 12:39
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With so many pressing issues facing light aviation why on earth are all these people spending all this time worrying about this woman and her exploits.

To be quite frank the LAA has bigger fish to fry.
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 13:00
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The award did not mention solo
You're all barking up the wrong tree
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 13:14
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@Nick.

The LAA awards committee have confirmed that they believed it to have been solo, and one of the people present has described what she did as a 'deception'. His choice of words.

Explain why Ewald had to get out of the Stearman before landing in front of a big crowd in Baragwanath if dual was not an issue?

It was sold to the world before, during and after as solo. It wasn't. Any attempt to re-write history will fail.
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 13:20
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Wrong



again
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 13:34
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Explain why Ewald had to get out of the Stearman before landing in front of a big crowd in Baragwanath if dual was not an issue?
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 13:36
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The 2016 Motion to Rescind did not mention the word "solo" either:

Originally Posted by Minutes of 2016 LAA AGM
Motion To rescind the award of the Bill Woodhams Trophy to Tracey Curtis-Taylor in 2014.
Proposer: Barry Tempest FRAeS
Seconder: Chris Martyr
Concerning the award of the Bill Woodhams I wish to propose a motion for the AGM. It concerns the recent award of the Bill Woodhams Trophy to Tracey Curtis-Taylor in respect of flights from South Africa and to Australia. In my considered opinion the award of this trophy by the LAA has brought our organisation into disrepute. I urge the Association to reconsider its decision and to rescind the award
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 13:41
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Sad sad sad

Originally Posted by Sam Rutherford View Post
Explain why Ewald had to get out of the Stearman before landing in front of a big crowd in Baragwanath if dual was not an issue?
THE AWARD DID NOT MENTION THE S WORD!
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 14:00
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It seems this woman has a massive sense of entitlement and is bullying the LAA.
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 14:45
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Explain why Ewald had to get out of the Stearman before landing in front of a big crowd in Baragwanath if dual was not an issue?
'Just guessing... Because the award is:

The citation was, "Award of the Bill Woodhams Trophy for a feat of navigation Tracey Curtis Taylor for her flight from Cape Town to Cairo in a Boeing Stearman a feat of navigation, aviation, tenacity and endurance."
Perhaps the presence of an ATPL second pilot (who never touched the controls), in a very well equipped cockpit, probably acting a as a navigator, removed the "feat of navigation" value of the award to Tracey! And, the issuance of an award for navigation under those circumstances would bring the LAA into disrepute! The quoted citation does read "her" flight, not "their" flight.
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 15:01
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Originally Posted by nickswebs View Post
The award did not mention solo
You're all barking up the wrong tree
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Nick.

If the solo issue isn't an issue, why was it so important that you had to join this forum and tell us you were the one to first say it?

Originally Posted by nickswebs View Post
It was me that introduced the ‘solo’ element in the wording on the website which appears to have been picked up by various media.....<snip>..... I maybe gilded the lily a little.....
As Sam says, the awards committee believe the flights to have been solo and that was obviously a part of their deliberation. In addition there's the 'feat of navigation' which turned out to be nothing more than following half a dozen very accurate GPS devices while a far more experienced pilot sat in the other (fully equipped) cockpit. Is that your fault too?







(Edit: I really must hit 'Send' sooner, 9 lives beat me to it.)

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Old 6th Oct 2018, 19:00
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Hi Sam,,
for information have you read D Moles post in LAA forum re Email proxy votes!!
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 22:08
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Originally Posted by nickswebs View Post


THE AWARD DID NOT MENTION THE S WORD!

So if SOLO is so unimportant can you explain two things.
1) why did E get out?
2) Why do you keep on about it to the exclusion of everything else?


edit to add - and why did she say it?
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 22:10
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I see she is posting on the LAA forum. She claims the judicial review was not her or her teams idea. I'd love to ask her if that means she is NOT threatening a judicial review.

I cant ask as I'm not registered on the LAA forum. Maybe I should register.
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 23:19
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I think you need to be an LAA member to join their forum. If you're not you could post your question(s) here, most people seem to be reading both and maybe someone will ask the question(s) for you.

Then again, TCT and her team seem not to have answered a single question thus far so I wouldn't hold your breath.
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 23:37
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Before you get too excited, judicial review applies only to public bodies. Whilst it could be argued that the duties of a public body are delegated to the LAA by the CAA, I don’t think that you could argue that the delegated authority covers the giving of awards. In any event the Court could not change the decision of the membership it could only tell the LAA to run the process according to the Rules of the LAA. Any lawyers with a view?
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