Proposed GA benchmark, miles per pound (a bit of fun)
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Although javelin does not fly a type that is commonly regarded as a GA aircraft, he does bring up a valid point.
Somehow you would have to include number of seats (or at least people carried) into the equation. Any ideas anybody?
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Somehow you would have to include number of seats (or at least people carried) into the equation. Any ideas anybody?
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So excluding monthly fixed costs, that makes 36.7p per mile in my C177 (group) aircraft. If I remember right, Inland Rev will allow 45p per mile if no other costs are claimed, for business mileage..... Guess how Im going to do my business trips?
Gengis Im a little surprised that you get 110 out of a Warrior, I used to find 100-105 more achieveable.
Gengis Im a little surprised that you get 110 out of a Warrior, I used to find 100-105 more achieveable.
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Piper Supercub (90Hp)
Using average cruise at 85kts at £20per hour (mogas)
20p per mile of air.
Group share, so overheads not to painful.
But oh what fun it is flying all day and ending up where you started.
CC
Using average cruise at 85kts at £20per hour (mogas)
20p per mile of air.
Group share, so overheads not to painful.
But oh what fun it is flying all day and ending up where you started.
CC
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110 is about the scheduled 75% power cruise for a Warrior. I'm lucky enough to share a very nice one with 16 others, hence the relatively low cost. Less shiny examples, probably won't do that.
Inland Revenue permit you 45ppm for the first 4000 miles per year, then 25 ppm thereafter.
My employer allows me to put in an Autoroute printout and claim 25ppm if I fly on business, which makes it all seem quite reasonable!
G
Inland Revenue permit you 45ppm for the first 4000 miles per year, then 25 ppm thereafter.
My employer allows me to put in an Autoroute printout and claim 25ppm if I fly on business, which makes it all seem quite reasonable!
G
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Arrow III - £100 per month = £1200pa.
Chip in about another £2000 every couple of years for FM immune or Mode S or whatever the latest JAA dream is.
Fly 50 hours a year, pay £65 an hour direct cost, so all-up £109 an hour, Cruises at 130 knots, so about 84p a nm. That's 73p a statute mile, which isn't so much more than the "official" mileage allowance for my car.
Worth every penny.
And the NEXT mile I fly only costs me 50p cos all the fixed charges have been paid already.
But who's counting?
Chip in about another £2000 every couple of years for FM immune or Mode S or whatever the latest JAA dream is.
Fly 50 hours a year, pay £65 an hour direct cost, so all-up £109 an hour, Cruises at 130 knots, so about 84p a nm. That's 73p a statute mile, which isn't so much more than the "official" mileage allowance for my car.
Worth every penny.
And the NEXT mile I fly only costs me 50p cos all the fixed charges have been paid already.
But who's counting?
Auster Autocrat with 100hp Cirrus engine
Mmm direct cost = fuel 4.5gph*4.54*.9 gbp/litre= 18.39
oil at 3.5 gbp / litre / 2 = 1.72
Total = 20.11 gbp/hour
Hangerage + Insurance + Annual + maintenance = 4000 gbp
I flew 40 hours last year so my hourly cost is 120 gbp / hour.
AAAAAARRRGGGHHH I KNEW I shouldn't have added it all up
So cost / mile = 120 / 90 mph = 1.33 gbp / mile.
DOUBLE AAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHH.
Repeat after me flying more makes it cheaper, flying more makes it cheaper..............
FNG have you had any more luck rounding up group members for the Argus yet
But it is loads of fun and if the wunderplane is dirty when I go to the airfield it's cos that's how I left it last time
oil at 3.5 gbp / litre / 2 = 1.72
Total = 20.11 gbp/hour
Hangerage + Insurance + Annual + maintenance = 4000 gbp
I flew 40 hours last year so my hourly cost is 120 gbp / hour.
AAAAAARRRGGGHHH I KNEW I shouldn't have added it all up
So cost / mile = 120 / 90 mph = 1.33 gbp / mile.
DOUBLE AAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHH.
Repeat after me flying more makes it cheaper, flying more makes it cheaper..............
FNG have you had any more luck rounding up group members for the Argus yet
But it is loads of fun and if the wunderplane is dirty when I go to the airfield it's cos that's how I left it last time
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MPG of an R22
About the same as your Jag!!
fuel consumed at a rate of 8 USgals/hour.
Assuming 80 knots cruise
80Knots/ 8 US gals per hour
= 80 NM / 8 US gals
= 10NM/USgal
= 11.508statute miles/USgal
= 11.508miles/0.8 UKgals
= 14.39mpg
I think.....
Also an R44 is about 9.9mpg
fuel consumed at a rate of 8 USgals/hour.
Assuming 80 knots cruise
80Knots/ 8 US gals per hour
= 80 NM / 8 US gals
= 10NM/USgal
= 11.508statute miles/USgal
= 11.508miles/0.8 UKgals
= 14.39mpg
I think.....
Also an R44 is about 9.9mpg