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Yes, try https://www.facebook.com/saltenfly/
It's a floatplane, but:
1. Just fly on land and no seaplane rating needed.
2. Get your seaplane rating at the same time - lots of fun!
Fly safe, Sam.
PS UK or Europe? :-)
It's a floatplane, but:
1. Just fly on land and no seaplane rating needed.
2. Get your seaplane rating at the same time - lots of fun!
Fly safe, Sam.
PS UK or Europe? :-)
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It's a floatplane, but:
1. Just fly on land and no seaplane rating needed.
His reasoning, perfectly sound to me, was that once it floats it is no longer an SEP(land) and you don’t have a class rating for SEP(sea).
Be interested if you can point to chapter and verse under the EASA regs to prove one way or another?
DD
(I do like your thinking, though!)
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I would hope not for an amphibian, which I find rather a frightening concept (I do have SEP(land) and SEP(sea)), although admittedly that's because of the number of people who kill themselves landing wheels down on water rather than any dangers on land.
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There are 18 C206s on the UK register. Most of them are in use for paradropping so probably not available for hire. But no harm in asking
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If a single engined propeller plane has wheels under it, it's an SEP. The fact that the wheels fold into floats does not take away from that, nor invoke the need for an additional rating - unless you want to land on water.
That said, using an amphibian version of a Cessna is a less good (and probably more expensive way) to gain experience on type. The landing visual cues will be very different. If the jump outfit can put the dual controls and right seat back in, they'd probably love the revenue from some type training...
That said, using an amphibian version of a Cessna is a less good (and probably more expensive way) to gain experience on type. The landing visual cues will be very different. If the jump outfit can put the dual controls and right seat back in, they'd probably love the revenue from some type training...
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What is your real objective ?.
If you want a significant number of C206 hours, for example to get a bush flying job in africa, work for a parachute club for a year or so to build the hours.
The C206 is not difficult, it is just a bigger 182 with a few peculiarities.
If you want a significant number of C206 hours, for example to get a bush flying job in africa, work for a parachute club for a year or so to build the hours.
The C206 is not difficult, it is just a bigger 182 with a few peculiarities.
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Definitely
I can just imagine the sharp intake of breath when, at the board of inquiry, I stand up and say "but Sam said it was legal".
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Definitely
...again, chapter and verse in the regulations please! It's all very well saying you can, but where does it say that.
I can just imagine the sharp intake of breath when, at the board of inquiry, I stand up and say "but Sam said it was legal".
A more appropriate question might be "where does it say that you can't"
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Annex 1 from 965/2012, definitions....
So it seems the examiner was not exactly telling the truth.
(72) ‘landplane’ means a fixed wing aircraft which is designed for taking off and landing on land and includes amphibians operated as landplanes;
(106) ‘seaplane’ means a fixed wing aircraft which is designed for taking off and landing on water and includes amphibians operated as seaplanes;
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As someone previously mentioned, contact a local parachuting club with a C206, I would have thought they would be grateful for the money for dual flying, and some parachute drop pilots as I was, were qualified instructors. It might be worth checking if the aircraft have dual controls, although from my experience on three types in the parachute dropping role all did, not that I was happy with the potential of a parachutist snagging on the starboard yoke.
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The fact that an aircraft may have additional equipment, which broaden its capabilities, does not mean that those capabilities must be used, nor that the pilot, who would like to fly the aircraft in it's simple form, requires additional qualification for the broader capabilities that the aircraft could have. Every IFR equipped aircraft I have known could still be legally flown VFR, by a non IFR rated pilot, and no one was offended, why would floats be different?
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You could then say that an aircraft with retracts can be flown by a non endorsed pilot, so long as they leave the gear down.
(I read those regs as saying if it has wheels AND floats that you need a rating for both)
If in doubt, call up your local regulator and ask.
(I read those regs as saying if it has wheels AND floats that you need a rating for both)
If in doubt, call up your local regulator and ask.
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Hi ddoth,
I think that probably is the case as it happens. It's also possible you can fly a wiggly prop without a complex rating if you don't wiggle it...?
I think we're rather getting off thread (without an off-thread rating!) but it's an interesting discussion.
I think that probably is the case as it happens. It's also possible you can fly a wiggly prop without a complex rating if you don't wiggle it...?
I think we're rather getting off thread (without an off-thread rating!) but it's an interesting discussion.