Not really VMC again...
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From: Broughton, UK
Not really VMC again...
Is it just me being pessimistic, or has the weather taken a nose dive in recent months? I like to fly long routes of 150+ miles, but have not been able to find suitable VMC days to be able to do much more than a few local circuits.
I did see one flight on FR24 from Norwich to Anglesey, by a PA28 a couple of days ago, but doubt if he was in VMC for most of it, as it was overcast here at 2000ft.asl. Which could explain why he missed Snowdon by a few miles.
Just looking at my old gliding club's webcam, shows that they are currently in low cloud, with visibility of 100 yards..
Webcams and weather » MIDLAND GLIDING CLUB
Another pastime of mine is astrophotography, but again in the last eight weeks there has only been one night when the Pole Star has been visible, and even then Saturn was obscured by clouds in the South.
Have you had better conditions for some good VMC flights? Please let us know, and if you were that PA28 pilot... Well Done...!
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I did see one flight on FR24 from Norwich to Anglesey, by a PA28 a couple of days ago, but doubt if he was in VMC for most of it, as it was overcast here at 2000ft.asl. Which could explain why he missed Snowdon by a few miles.
Just looking at my old gliding club's webcam, shows that they are currently in low cloud, with visibility of 100 yards..
Webcams and weather » MIDLAND GLIDING CLUB
Another pastime of mine is astrophotography, but again in the last eight weeks there has only been one night when the Pole Star has been visible, and even then Saturn was obscured by clouds in the South.
Have you had better conditions for some good VMC flights? Please let us know, and if you were that PA28 pilot... Well Done...!
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Last edited by scifi; 29th September 2017 at 22:47. Reason: Inserted 'asl' to avoid confusion.
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Hi BE... It is sooo VMC / VFR if you live in Holland or the Lincolnshire Fenns, but here most of the ground is above 1600ft in North Wales and the Pennines. e.g. Long Myndd gliding site is 1400ft asl.... and it looks as if conditions have improved for this afternoon, as they have some aircraft out of the hangar.
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May I suggest scifi that you get an IR(R)?
Using my IR(R), I have this week flown five and half hours (special holiday treat to myself). Half of it was in solid IMC (or head down on the ILS under a radar service) and half of the rest in glorious VMC on top. The only worrisome bits were the remaining hour or so in marginal VMC below 1500 feet. Maybe I am odd(!) but I find IMC flying exciting and satisfying. Just a thought for you.
BTW, the aeroplane I fly is a base model AA5 with no autopilot so a fancy flying machine is not required. It does have a GTN650 but I have recently also done a longish IMC flight in a non-autopilot non-GNSS PA28 purely on VOR / DME / ADF including a DME-localiser cloud break at the end.
Using my IR(R), I have this week flown five and half hours (special holiday treat to myself). Half of it was in solid IMC (or head down on the ILS under a radar service) and half of the rest in glorious VMC on top. The only worrisome bits were the remaining hour or so in marginal VMC below 1500 feet. Maybe I am odd(!) but I find IMC flying exciting and satisfying. Just a thought for you.
BTW, the aeroplane I fly is a base model AA5 with no autopilot so a fancy flying machine is not required. It does have a GTN650 but I have recently also done a longish IMC flight in a non-autopilot non-GNSS PA28 purely on VOR / DME / ADF including a DME-localiser cloud break at the end.
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Hi Joe, thanks for the IR(R) suggestion, but that type of flying does not appeal to me at all. I have always thought that an IR rating was more like a stepping stone towards a commercial pilots license, and I am much to old to start that career now !
Must admit that the VFR on Top is an excellent way to travel. At 7 to 10 thousand feet the air is so much smoother, and the sunlight gives good visibility. The aircraft could also be faster and more efficient, if you get the engine mixture correctly set. Also any high altitude tailwinds can give you a very good advantage. It is a pity that the CAA have cluttered up most of this airspace with Class A airways, when they could have made it Class D for us.
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Must admit that the VFR on Top is an excellent way to travel. At 7 to 10 thousand feet the air is so much smoother, and the sunlight gives good visibility. The aircraft could also be faster and more efficient, if you get the engine mixture correctly set. Also any high altitude tailwinds can give you a very good advantage. It is a pity that the CAA have cluttered up most of this airspace with Class A airways, when they could have made it Class D for us.
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The IR(R) (aka IMC rating) needn't be a stepping stone to anything, other than climbing above the clouds. Getting the rating is not particularly onerous and greatly increases the opportunities for flying in the UK when the cloud rolls in.
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I'm amazed at how few pilots nowadays consider an IR(R).
Shortly after gaining a PPL many pilots even forget how to hold a heading or height.
The IR(R) will change the way you fly for the better for ever. It even sharpens up your RT.
I would have given up (attempting) to fly in Scotland years ago without it.
Shortly after gaining a PPL many pilots even forget how to hold a heading or height.
The IR(R) will change the way you fly for the better for ever. It even sharpens up your RT.
I would have given up (attempting) to fly in Scotland years ago without it.
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The Cambridge Aero Club ones do. Though it's useful to say you want an IFR aircraft at the time of booking otherwise you might occasionally get a "VFR only" one with a missing or failed instrument.







