New trainer for GA, finally?
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New trainer for GA, finally?
As much as I like it, I think the base price is a tad stiff.
Besides, who needs a turbo engine on a trainer? Anyway, I wish them much success. It certainly looks good.
https://generalaviationnews.com/2017...or-sonaca-200/
Product overview | sonaca-aircraft
Besides, who needs a turbo engine on a trainer? Anyway, I wish them much success. It certainly looks good.
https://generalaviationnews.com/2017...or-sonaca-200/
Product overview | sonaca-aircraft
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It's interesting to me that all the big schools in the United States seem to be buying new Cessna 172 or PA28 Archers. I guess they run an engine through them up to 2400 hrs then part them out for more new a/c. They're a similar price to each other, around $330,000, though I don't suppose the schools pay that much. I think they're both powered by Lycoming O360.
It's an age-old argument for flying training, 2-seats or 4. A 4-seater can lift a bigger load and generally more roomy for bigger people, as we're becoming. I find 2 x 6'2" 15 stone people a tad cosy in a C150, these days, whereas our school PA28 is just fine, even for a 6'6" student. 4-seaters are also good for the hire market.
There's NO way as a small school we could ever contemplate buying a £150k aircraft. Our PA28 burns 30 lit an hour. We'd have to do 7,000 hours on an 18 lit per hour aircraft before we started seeing any savings, that's 20 years flying at our present utilisation.
I think the replacement costs for a turbo Rotax aren't too far off overhaul costs of a O360, with similar TBO.
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It's an age-old argument for flying training, 2-seats or 4. A 4-seater can lift a bigger load and generally more roomy for bigger people, as we're becoming. I find 2 x 6'2" 15 stone people a tad cosy in a C150, these days, whereas our school PA28 is just fine, even for a 6'6" student. 4-seaters are also good for the hire market.
There's NO way as a small school we could ever contemplate buying a £150k aircraft. Our PA28 burns 30 lit an hour. We'd have to do 7,000 hours on an 18 lit per hour aircraft before we started seeing any savings, that's 20 years flying at our present utilisation.
I think the replacement costs for a turbo Rotax aren't too far off overhaul costs of a O360, with similar TBO.
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It's interesting to me that all the big schools in the United States seem to be buying new Cessna 172 or PA28 Archers. I guess they run an engine through them up to 2400 hrs then part them out for more new a/c. They're a similar price to each other, around $330,000, though I don't suppose the schools pay that much. I think they're both powered by Lycoming O360.
It's an age-old argument for flying training, 2-seats or 4. A 4-seater can lift a bigger load and generally more roomy for bigger people, as we're becoming. I find 2 x 6'2" 15 stone people a tad cosy in a C150, these days, whereas our school PA28 is just fine, even for a 6'6" student. 4-seaters are also good for the hire market.
There's NO way as a small school we could ever contemplate buying a £150k aircraft. Our PA28 burns 30 lit an hour. We'd have to do 7,000 hours on an 18 lit per hour aircraft before we started seeing any savings, that's 20 years flying at our present utilisation.
I think the replacement costs for a turbo Rotax aren't too far off overhaul costs of a O360, with similar TBO.
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It's an age-old argument for flying training, 2-seats or 4. A 4-seater can lift a bigger load and generally more roomy for bigger people, as we're becoming. I find 2 x 6'2" 15 stone people a tad cosy in a C150, these days, whereas our school PA28 is just fine, even for a 6'6" student. 4-seaters are also good for the hire market.
There's NO way as a small school we could ever contemplate buying a £150k aircraft. Our PA28 burns 30 lit an hour. We'd have to do 7,000 hours on an 18 lit per hour aircraft before we started seeing any savings, that's 20 years flying at our present utilisation.
I think the replacement costs for a turbo Rotax aren't too far off overhaul costs of a O360, with similar TBO.
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"It's interesting to me that all the big schools in the United States seem to be buying new Cessna 172 or PA28 Archers. I guess they run an engine through them up to 2400 hrs then part them out for more new a/c."
It the states its financially beneficial to buy brand new C172 the o-360 is as bullet proof as they come. So they run them for 2000 hours. Put 4 new cylinders on them and then run them a further 2000 hours and at that point overhaul or move the aircraft on.
Sadly that's not possible in EASA land.
It the states its financially beneficial to buy brand new C172 the o-360 is as bullet proof as they come. So they run them for 2000 hours. Put 4 new cylinders on them and then run them a further 2000 hours and at that point overhaul or move the aircraft on.
Sadly that's not possible in EASA land.
who needs a turbo engine on a trainer?
Thought the design looked familiar - very similar to the Sling 2.
Turns out the builders of the "Sling range" (The Airplane Factory) are mentioned in the blurb.
Turns out the builders of the "Sling range" (The Airplane Factory) are mentioned in the blurb.
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I had the chance to test the aircraft during a flight in EBZW. The aircraft is very nice to fly and have good performances ( I think you can find them on sonaca-aircraft | the new reference aircraft )
The payload is amazing compare to other GA aircraft. It seems that you can fly with full fuel and 2 people compare to a C152, with the same load you will be beyond the limits...
The payload is amazing compare to other GA aircraft. It seems that you can fly with full fuel and 2 people compare to a C152, with the same load you will be beyond the limits...
You have a point there. But would the Jodel be sturdy enough to cope with training use, like this bird seems to be designed for? Of course it remains to be seem how well it copes in daily life.
