Maurice Kirk is in Africa
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Terry Holloway didn't say he wasn't a fan of Maurice Kirk, but he did describe him as he is seen by many people!
However, I wonder what Sam thinks of Maurice who is seemingly disrupting the Vintage Air Rally, and was asked to leave and has not. The detention in Ethiopia was almost certainly for other reasons than Maurice.
The pilot sits in the back seat.
However, I wonder what Sam thinks of Maurice who is seemingly disrupting the Vintage Air Rally, and was asked to leave and has not. The detention in Ethiopia was almost certainly for other reasons than Maurice.
I am sure the old boy will make it to Cape Town.
He is free up there in the sky unlike his constant fights with the judicial system which incarcerates him routinely.
Looking closely at the picture below there appears to be a plastic drum and a couple of jerry cans in the front of the Cub? A liferaft strung above?
Where does the pilot sit?
Given his past record that aircraft could have some serious range?
He is free up there in the sky unlike his constant fights with the judicial system which incarcerates him routinely.
Looking closely at the picture below there appears to be a plastic drum and a couple of jerry cans in the front of the Cub? A liferaft strung above?
Where does the pilot sit?
Given his past record that aircraft could have some serious range?
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The Rally has certainly had much wider publicity because of Kirk.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...lew-there.html
It is worth pointing out that he did not ship his Cub to Crete but started the journey to Cape Town from a farmers field in the West Country just a few weeks ago.
How many 71 year old UK pilots could achieve that alone and without support?
He has flown some amazing adventures over the years but sadly does not fit in to the gin and tonic aviation community.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...lew-there.html
It is worth pointing out that he did not ship his Cub to Crete but started the journey to Cape Town from a farmers field in the West Country just a few weeks ago.
How many 71 year old UK pilots could achieve that alone and without support?
He has flown some amazing adventures over the years but sadly does not fit in to the gin and tonic aviation community.
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The Rally has certainly had much wider publicity because of Kirk.
British pilots seized in Ethiopia after their entry permits were cancelled | Daily Mail Online
It is worth pointing out that he did not ship his Cub to Crete but started the journey to Cape Town from a farmers field in the West Country just a few weeks ago.
How many 71 year old UK pilots could achieve that alone and without support?
He has flown some amazing adventures over the years but sadly does not fit in to the gin and tonic aviation community.
British pilots seized in Ethiopia after their entry permits were cancelled | Daily Mail Online
It is worth pointing out that he did not ship his Cub to Crete but started the journey to Cape Town from a farmers field in the West Country just a few weeks ago.
How many 71 year old UK pilots could achieve that alone and without support?
He has flown some amazing adventures over the years but sadly does not fit in to the gin and tonic aviation community.
And who is Jay Sata? What are his credentials for commenting on Maurice Kirk and linking her to Tracey Curtis Taylor?
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Terry,
Some posts have vanished which may have given you some insight to the 'linking'.
Believe me when I say that there is a significant difference between alone/solo and pretending to be alone/solo.
You won't have to explain to Jay Sata about the nuts and bolts about flying long distances as a PPL unsupported. He's done it.
For me, the passage that intrigues me is this.
"Terry Holloway didn't say he wasn't a fan of Maurice Kirk, but he did describe him as he is seen by many people!"
Who exactly are these people?
Some posts have vanished which may have given you some insight to the 'linking'.
Believe me when I say that there is a significant difference between alone/solo and pretending to be alone/solo.
You won't have to explain to Jay Sata about the nuts and bolts about flying long distances as a PPL unsupported. He's done it.
For me, the passage that intrigues me is this.
"Terry Holloway didn't say he wasn't a fan of Maurice Kirk, but he did describe him as he is seen by many people!"
Who exactly are these people?
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From what I've read he sounds an utter liability and exactly the last person you'd want anywhere near an aeroplane.
He shows no regard whatsoever for the law (which he clearly believes is ay, way beneath him) and is utterly unrepentant even when punished for serious offences by courts of law.
Why does anyone defend or support this lawless jerk? He's a shocking and disgraceful "ambassador" for aviation, that's for sure.
He shows no regard whatsoever for the law (which he clearly believes is ay, way beneath him) and is utterly unrepentant even when punished for serious offences by courts of law.
Why does anyone defend or support this lawless jerk? He's a shocking and disgraceful "ambassador" for aviation, that's for sure.
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"From what I've read"
Exactly, and there lies the danger, until you start to scratch below the surface and all is not what they would like you to believe.
He's ok. I would trust him much more than the other one.
Exactly, and there lies the danger, until you start to scratch below the surface and all is not what they would like you to believe.
He's ok. I would trust him much more than the other one.
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TH - The links/similarities are numerous. Private aviation, Africa, expedition, retracing, solo, vintage, rule breaking, disregard for procedures, crashes, notoriety, controversy, Sam Rutherford and now another name, one that links an aviatrix to an award now commenting on Maurice and Jay Sata.
I just don't know how he does what he does and gets away with it. You would have thought that at his age you would have slowed down a bit and taken things a bit easier. I even reckon he was in court shortly before his departure from the UK for driving a vehicle (that was towing his aircraft) without insurance.
But he does make the world more interesting. I just hope he doesn't hurt others or himself.
I just don't know how he does what he does and gets away with it. You would have thought that at his age you would have slowed down a bit and taken things a bit easier. I even reckon he was in court shortly before his departure from the UK for driving a vehicle (that was towing his aircraft) without insurance.
But he does make the world more interesting. I just hope he doesn't hurt others or himself.
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Terry,
Some posts have vanished which may have given you some insight to the 'linking'.
Believe me when I say that there is a significant difference between alone/solo and pretending to be alone/solo.
You won't have to explain to Jay Sata about the nuts and bolts about flying long distances as a PPL unsupported. He's done it.
For me, the passage that intrigues me is this.
"Terry Holloway didn't say he wasn't a fan of Maurice Kirk, but he did describe him as he is seen by many people!"
Who exactly are these people?
Some posts have vanished which may have given you some insight to the 'linking'.
Believe me when I say that there is a significant difference between alone/solo and pretending to be alone/solo.
You won't have to explain to Jay Sata about the nuts and bolts about flying long distances as a PPL unsupported. He's done it.
For me, the passage that intrigues me is this.
"Terry Holloway didn't say he wasn't a fan of Maurice Kirk, but he did describe him as he is seen by many people!"
Who exactly are these people?
part of General Aviation where Maurice has had contact!
He is a very amusing chap, and probably is an able stick and rudder man, but being a pilot is rather more than that.........
The Rally has certainly had much wider publicity because of Kirk.
British pilots seized in Ethiopia after their entry permits were cancelled | Daily Mail Online
It is worth pointing out that he did not ship his Cub to Crete but started the journey to Cape Town from a farmers field in the West Country just a few weeks ago.
How many 71 year old UK pilots could achieve that alone and without support?
He has flown some amazing adventures over the years but sadly does not fit in to the gin and tonic aviation community.
British pilots seized in Ethiopia after their entry permits were cancelled | Daily Mail Online
It is worth pointing out that he did not ship his Cub to Crete but started the journey to Cape Town from a farmers field in the West Country just a few weeks ago.
How many 71 year old UK pilots could achieve that alone and without support?
He has flown some amazing adventures over the years but sadly does not fit in to the gin and tonic aviation community.
The Rally has certainly had much wider publicity because of Kirk.
British pilots seized in Ethiopia after their entry permits were cancelled | Daily Mail Online
It is worth pointing out that he did not ship his Cub to Crete but started the journey to Cape Town from a farmers field in the West Country just a few weeks ago.
How many 71 year old UK pilots could achieve that alone and without support?
He has flown some amazing adventures over the years but sadly does not fit in to the gin and tonic aviation community.
British pilots seized in Ethiopia after their entry permits were cancelled | Daily Mail Online
It is worth pointing out that he did not ship his Cub to Crete but started the journey to Cape Town from a farmers field in the West Country just a few weeks ago.
How many 71 year old UK pilots could achieve that alone and without support?
He has flown some amazing adventures over the years but sadly does not fit in to the gin and tonic aviation community.
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Gin and Tonic aviation community
Terry Holloway posted
It is the part of the general aviation community that indulges in small talk and networks over their achievements at black tie gatherings
You are a key part Terry.Air League executive and Honourable Company of Air Pilots liveryman.
You knew TCT long before she was 'awarded' a framed address from the Air League on which your were chairman of the awards committe.That is apparent from a quick google of your name,Marshalls Aerospace and TCT.
Here is why she got your award.
http://www.airleague.co.uk/wp-conten...chApril_16.pdf
To quote you...
So please tell us why you never corrected her claims in the media!
What did she get the award for?
Never mind the 'Outreach' claims just post what she did apart from sitting onboard a highly funded jaunt with a commercial pilot up front.
To put it bluntly Kirk never got as much as a whiff of recognition for flying a Cub from the UK to Sydney and then on to Japan during the London to Sydney Air Race. The winner was a well funded rebuilt Aerostar flown by commercial pilots.
Here is a question for you Terry.
What was so special about TCT.
Taking three months on a flight Amy Johnson did in 21 days.
Staying in first class accomodation with a large support team.
Having a commercial pilot in the front seat who built the Stearman
Not exactly hardship.
As for the 'outreach' I look forward to a full breakdown of what that means.
Why did Ewald Gritsch not receive one last May?
If Kirk makes it to Cape Town from that wet field in the Quantocks will you at the Air League consider him worthy of an A4 certificate in a frame?
I doubt it.
What on earth is the "gin and tonic aviation community"? What an inane comment!
You are a key part Terry.Air League executive and Honourable Company of Air Pilots liveryman.
You knew TCT long before she was 'awarded' a framed address from the Air League on which your were chairman of the awards committe.That is apparent from a quick google of your name,Marshalls Aerospace and TCT.
Here is why she got your award.
- Tracey Curtis-Taylor for her flight in her Boeing Stearman open cockpit bi-plane from Farnborough to Sydney in Australia.
To quote you...
From the outset we in the Air League knew it was not a solo flight and that point was clearly made when we made our award in May this year."
What did she get the award for?
Never mind the 'Outreach' claims just post what she did apart from sitting onboard a highly funded jaunt with a commercial pilot up front.
To put it bluntly Kirk never got as much as a whiff of recognition for flying a Cub from the UK to Sydney and then on to Japan during the London to Sydney Air Race. The winner was a well funded rebuilt Aerostar flown by commercial pilots.
Here is a question for you Terry.
What was so special about TCT.
Taking three months on a flight Amy Johnson did in 21 days.
Staying in first class accomodation with a large support team.
Having a commercial pilot in the front seat who built the Stearman
Not exactly hardship.
As for the 'outreach' I look forward to a full breakdown of what that means.
Why did Ewald Gritsch not receive one last May?
If Kirk makes it to Cape Town from that wet field in the Quantocks will you at the Air League consider him worthy of an A4 certificate in a frame?
I doubt it.
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The Rally has just arrived in Kenya after the Ethiopians managed to figure out where they and the Sudanese managed to mess up.
For the second time in two flights, Maurice is a no show. We have launched (again) an overdue aircraft process (now Kenyan rather than Ethiopian). We suspect he was trying to fly directly to Nairobi but has run out of sunlight and landed somewhere.
Next of kin have been informed, but whilst many of his piloting skills are very poor (rules and regulations to start), his ability to drop his cub into a small field for the night is impressive. We hope he is okay and will continue in the morning.
He is no longer part of the rally, but we have been helping him with everything (fuel, accommodation, oil, permits, flight plans etc. etc.) until Kenya.
For the second time in two flights, Maurice is a no show. We have launched (again) an overdue aircraft process (now Kenyan rather than Ethiopian). We suspect he was trying to fly directly to Nairobi but has run out of sunlight and landed somewhere.
Next of kin have been informed, but whilst many of his piloting skills are very poor (rules and regulations to start), his ability to drop his cub into a small field for the night is impressive. We hope he is okay and will continue in the morning.
He is no longer part of the rally, but we have been helping him with everything (fuel, accommodation, oil, permits, flight plans etc. etc.) until Kenya.
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Sam,
I'm quite sure that you know this already but Maurice's tracker hasn't moved since this morning. Any reason why?
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I'm quite sure that you know this already but Maurice's tracker hasn't moved since this morning. Any reason why?
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No 35 appears to be lagging too.
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Hi Sam,
Thanks for getting back. I don't understand the turning off of the tracker at this stage of the flight to win the race. Did he tell you this?
Surely he must make the scheduled stops where you have arranged fuel?
Thanks for getting back. I don't understand the turning off of the tracker at this stage of the flight to win the race. Did he tell you this?
Surely he must make the scheduled stops where you have arranged fuel?
Next of kin will not worry about Maurice.
He will have dropped in somewhere and sleep under the wing.
He will have dropped in somewhere and sleep under the wing.
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Today's news of Maurice, who has had his third engine failure in the same number of flights, from Sam Rutherford via a Facebook paste:
Maurice is safe! We heard he had an engine failure and landed (not at an airfield) in South Sudan but had a puncture on landing. He’s fine, we think the plane also. Locals found him and called a Brit in Juba they recently worked for. He contacted the British embassy in Juba.
Jay Sata has asked elsewhere on PPrune if Maurice Kirk should be recognised for an award for his flying exploits. My response, as Chairman of The Air League awards committee was that a suitable nomination should be written and sent for consideration to :Air League/HCAP/RAeS/RAeC/LAA. He probably could qualify for thr LAA Will Wadhams Trophy for navigation as long as flight planning, airmanship and aircraft maintenance are not factors! But then as he operates under the auspices of the LAA, that might not be an issue!
Maurice is safe! We heard he had an engine failure and landed (not at an airfield) in South Sudan but had a puncture on landing. He’s fine, we think the plane also. Locals found him and called a Brit in Juba they recently worked for. He contacted the British embassy in Juba.
Jay Sata has asked elsewhere on PPrune if Maurice Kirk should be recognised for an award for his flying exploits. My response, as Chairman of The Air League awards committee was that a suitable nomination should be written and sent for consideration to :Air League/HCAP/RAeS/RAeC/LAA. He probably could qualify for thr LAA Will Wadhams Trophy for navigation as long as flight planning, airmanship and aircraft maintenance are not factors! But then as he operates under the auspices of the LAA, that might not be an issue!
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"as long as flight planning, airmanship and aircraft maintenance are not factors! But then as he operates under the auspices of the LAA, that might not be an issue!"
I can think of more than one inference to draw from this comment, and I've decided the most likely one is that it says more about the writer than anything else
I can think of more than one inference to draw from this comment, and I've decided the most likely one is that it says more about the writer than anything else
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Terry - He should certainly win an award for weird and another one for getting away with what he does. Anyone who can operate so far from the norms that we take for granted, not hurt anyone and still live is certainly noteworthy, as this thread proves.
But as you are mentioning awards for navigation, flight planning, airmanship and such things can you tell me how TC-T can possibly quality for any award? She doesn't plan, has clearly demonstrated and even brags about her total disregard for the law, shows dreadfully poor airmanship, had questionable navigation skills, even with a GPS and had two interesting and very public crashes. A female Mauruce Kirk if you like. I can not reconcile the lack of differences between them when it come to flying.
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But as you are mentioning awards for navigation, flight planning, airmanship and such things can you tell me how TC-T can possibly quality for any award? She doesn't plan, has clearly demonstrated and even brags about her total disregard for the law, shows dreadfully poor airmanship, had questionable navigation skills, even with a GPS and had two interesting and very public crashes. A female Mauruce Kirk if you like. I can not reconcile the lack of differences between them when it come to flying.
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