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Old 16th Oct 2016, 09:51
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Identify this aircraft?

The BBC are running a story about a mysterious aircraft flying over the Wem/Sleap area of Shropshire.

Here's the photo they put up...



I'm pretty certain that's a Britten-Norman Islander - any info from the locals?
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Old 16th Oct 2016, 12:18
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While not a local..
Are there any Scottish Aviation Pioneers still flying?
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Old 16th Oct 2016, 13:03
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Maybe something belonging to one of their members?

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that's aurora coming in to land at the secret US air force base on the moon.

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Old 16th Oct 2016, 15:13
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No not that thing on the right - that's a BAe Taranis UAv from Shawbury - I'm thinking the other might even be a Pilatus Porter?
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The thing on the right, on close inspection, appears to be a small moth.
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I thought all the Moths were biplanes.
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Must be a Moth minor then!
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Old 17th Oct 2016, 06:28
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At a guess I would say-:
Verhees Delta (F-PDHV) and Europa (F-PGKL)


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Old 17th Oct 2016, 07:11
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I'm not sure that the delta is a/the Verhees.
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Old 17th Oct 2016, 07:27
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I thought all the Moths were biplanes.
Minor, Leopard, Puss and even Tiger Moth (dH71 not 82a) were all monoplanes!
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Less well known de Havilland Moth aircraft Destinworld Publishing
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I thought of the Verhees Delta too, but as I remember its trailing edge is less straight, and curves in rather than slightly out as pictured.

(nb for those confused with its F-P registration: the designer is Belgian, and the plane is based in Belgium - but the French experimental register is slightly less hard to access than the Belgian counterpart. Many Belgian experimentals/homebuilts have F-Pxxx registrations.)
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Having studies the photo along with a fellow aviation person, the back aircraft could be a Broussard and the lower object a winged flying suit, parachutist.


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That's not the right trailing edge shape for the Taranis. And it's not a VariEze either, as the Sleap airfield spokesperson suggests in the BBC piece. But if it's near Sleap/Wem then the chances of neither Sleap nor Shawbury knowing are very slim. It's inside the Shawbury MATZ so highly likely to have been talking to them.
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Thanks 'PK as I said I know what the tin triangle is but was wondering why you would use something as unsophisticated as a straight wing type as chase plane. Maybe all the Shropshire aero club members have been sworn to secrecy?
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Somebody tried to photograph a model aircraft. There was a moth on the lens. Photo actually taken near Loch Ness. Photo quality degraded due to passage through digestive system of large amphibian. Photographer missing. Possible alien abduction.
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Photographer has been arrested and sentenced to appear before Lord Sugar on The Apprentice - confirmed Alan Abduction.

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Old 17th Oct 2016, 22:41
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Could be another UAV?

A bit of a longshot, but it could be another UAV such as the BAE Kingfisher, if they were doing trials into swarming or close formation flying (e.g. for in-flight refuelling feasability trials).

BAE Kingfisher. Specifications. A photo.



Otherwise it could be a derivative of the BAe Stabileye UAV from the 1980s.

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Old 17th Oct 2016, 23:05
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Originally Posted by ETOPS View Post
No not that thing on the right - that's a BAe Taranis UAv from Shawbury
How do you know that?

It seems most unlikely outside segregated airpace, which a MATZ or ATZ isn't.
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