Lachlan Smart - Nomination for HCAP and LAA Award?
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Lachlan Smart - Does He Deserve An HCAP or LAA Award?
I am suggesting this young man deserves some serious awards from the Honourable Company of Air Pilots and the Light Aircraft Association.
18 year old Lachlan Smart is the youngest pilot to ever cross the Pacific and Atlantic and has done the latter the long way via the Azores.
He is spending around 11 days in the UK while the S22 has a check.
With so much bad news around today this is uplifting.
(Appeal to mods.. can we keep this in Private Flying and not ANZ & Pacific where it will get lost?)
18 year old Lachlan Smart is the youngest pilot to ever cross the Pacific and Atlantic and has done the latter the long way via the Azores.
Biggin Hill will play a starring role in a Guinness world record attempt later today when the teenage pilot touches down at the airport.
Lachlan Smart is attempting to become the youngest person in history to fly around the globe solo, in a single engine aircraft, in a trip titled Wings Around the World.
The 18-year-old began his historic flight earlier this month when he took off in Australia and he has already made his way across the Pacific, America and the Atlantic.
And just after 7pm tonight, the native of Sunshine Coast, Queensland, will land at London Biggin Hill Airport for the latest stop during his 24,000 nautical mile adventure.
Read more at The youngest ever pilot to go round the world about to land in Biggin Hill | Kent and Sussex Courier
Lachlan Smart is attempting to become the youngest person in history to fly around the globe solo, in a single engine aircraft, in a trip titled Wings Around the World.
The 18-year-old began his historic flight earlier this month when he took off in Australia and he has already made his way across the Pacific, America and the Atlantic.
And just after 7pm tonight, the native of Sunshine Coast, Queensland, will land at London Biggin Hill Airport for the latest stop during his 24,000 nautical mile adventure.
Read more at The youngest ever pilot to go round the world about to land in Biggin Hill | Kent and Sussex Courier
With so much bad news around today this is uplifting.
(Appeal to mods.. can we keep this in Private Flying and not ANZ & Pacific where it will get lost?)
Last edited by Mike Flynn; 29th Aug 2016 at 12:25.
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Lachlan has landed at Biggin Hill
I have just spoken to customs at Biggin and Lachlan has landed having flown direct single pilot from the Azores today.
It appears to me no one is interested in this 18 year old record breaking guy because he is not making a song and dance about his exploits.
However the fact remains tonight he has become the youngest person to have ever flown solo from Australia to the UK.
He also now holds the record for youngest pilot to ever fly across the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans.
You are a true inspirational pilot and aviator Lachlan
It appears to me no one is interested in this 18 year old record breaking guy because he is not making a song and dance about his exploits.
However the fact remains tonight he has become the youngest person to have ever flown solo from Australia to the UK.
He also now holds the record for youngest pilot to ever fly across the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans.
You are a true inspirational pilot and aviator Lachlan
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You have rather transparently only promoted his efforts (admirable as they are) as part of your campaign against TCT (reprehensible although she is).
Best of luck to him, but there are numerous other people out there, all the time, doing long trips. He's obviously talented, but also very well resourced from other people's efforts than his own.
I hope that he has a fantastic trip, and goes onto bigger and better things. I can't however get all that excited about it.
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Best of luck to him, but there are numerous other people out there, all the time, doing long trips. He's obviously talented, but also very well resourced from other people's efforts than his own.
I hope that he has a fantastic trip, and goes onto bigger and better things. I can't however get all that excited about it.
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You have rather transparently only promoted his efforts (admirable as they are) as part of your campaign against TCT (reprehensible although she is).
Best of luck to him, but there are numerous other people out there, all the time, doing long trips. He's obviously talented, but also very well resourced from other people's efforts than his own.
I hope that he has a fantastic trip, and goes onto bigger and better things. I can't however get all that excited about it.
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Best of luck to him, but there are numerous other people out there, all the time, doing long trips. He's obviously talented, but also very well resourced from other people's efforts than his own.
I hope that he has a fantastic trip, and goes onto bigger and better things. I can't however get all that excited about it.
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The flight that Ms Curtis-Taylor CLAIMS to have made (as opposed to what she appears ACTUALLY to have done) is, IMHO, a much more difficult aviation challenge.
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Well done Lachlan ! No doubt he had a GPS (or possibly two as any sensible chap would have a spare as a precaution) but that does not seem to be a barrier for getting a navigation award at the very least.
The Russian balloonist and the crew of the solar powered aircraft also made some very notable circumnavigation flights.
All three should be candidates for crossing large amounts of blue on their maps in very credible circumstances. Everything was above board and nobody carried their bags to the luxury hotels while they searched for a hairdresser.
The Russian balloonist and the crew of the solar powered aircraft also made some very notable circumnavigation flights.
All three should be candidates for crossing large amounts of blue on their maps in very credible circumstances. Everything was above board and nobody carried their bags to the luxury hotels while they searched for a hairdresser.
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I started this thread to highlight the low key press coverage of a very young man who has broken records for long distance flying.
I agree there are plenty of wealthy pilots doing their Earthrounders trips but Lachlan is only 18 and not from a wealthy family. If it is so easy why has no other 18 year old ever done it.
His efforts appear to have been dismissed because he is not a famous personality or has a well oiled PR machine.
Had Richard Branson just flown a small two seater single engined aeroplane from Australia to the UK across the Pacific and Atlantic there would have been hundreds of media people and a few B list Royals awaiting him at Biggin.
The story would have been on all the news channels and fronts pages.
Lachlan had less of a welcome than most of the minor celebs that enter the UK every day in their chauffered jets.
Indeed talking to a few friends in the national media the consensus is that he is not from the UK so there is no story and there will not be a round of high profile receptions.
If you bother to read his blog his ancestor's came from the UK and did their duty in WW2.
He also illustrates how he got his dream moving alone.
However, being an Aussie,Lachlan will have to wait until he returns down under to get recognition for his amazing achievements.
I emailed all the key people at HCAP but none have got back to me.
Here is the dismissive Press Association story.
I agree there are plenty of wealthy pilots doing their Earthrounders trips but Lachlan is only 18 and not from a wealthy family. If it is so easy why has no other 18 year old ever done it.
His efforts appear to have been dismissed because he is not a famous personality or has a well oiled PR machine.
Had Richard Branson just flown a small two seater single engined aeroplane from Australia to the UK across the Pacific and Atlantic there would have been hundreds of media people and a few B list Royals awaiting him at Biggin.
The story would have been on all the news channels and fronts pages.
Lachlan had less of a welcome than most of the minor celebs that enter the UK every day in their chauffered jets.
Indeed talking to a few friends in the national media the consensus is that he is not from the UK so there is no story and there will not be a round of high profile receptions.
If you bother to read his blog his ancestor's came from the UK and did their duty in WW2.
He also illustrates how he got his dream moving alone.
However, being an Aussie,Lachlan will have to wait until he returns down under to get recognition for his amazing achievements.
I emailed all the key people at HCAP but none have got back to me.
Here is the dismissive Press Association story.
An Australian teenage pilot has touched down in Britain part-way through his bid to become the youngest person to fly around the world solo in a single-engine aircraft.
Lachlan Smart, 18, is now on an 11-day stopover in the UK after flying a Cirrus SR-22 plane into Biggin Hill in Kent from the Azores, in the Atlantic.
He will resume his challenge on August 6, when he will fly to Cannes in the south of France as part of his eight-week, 24,000-nautical mile record bid, titled Wings Around The World.
Mr Smart's UK stopover will enable his aircraft to be serviced, while he explores his family's aviation links to Britain. Both his great-grandfathers flew out of Biggin Hill during the Second World War.
He said: "The journey so far has been a roller coaster. There have been so many ups and downs. The weather is something that's been out of my control.
"There have been some great times, including flying over the Grand Canyon and the Mississippi River. I'm looking forward to seeing my aunts, uncles and cousins while I'm here, as well as doing some touristy things like seeing Buckingham Palace."
Mr Smart started his adventure on July 4 from the Sunshine Coast of Queensland where he was brought up, and he hopes to return there as a record-breaker at the end of August.
Lachlan Smart, 18, is now on an 11-day stopover in the UK after flying a Cirrus SR-22 plane into Biggin Hill in Kent from the Azores, in the Atlantic.
He will resume his challenge on August 6, when he will fly to Cannes in the south of France as part of his eight-week, 24,000-nautical mile record bid, titled Wings Around The World.
Mr Smart's UK stopover will enable his aircraft to be serviced, while he explores his family's aviation links to Britain. Both his great-grandfathers flew out of Biggin Hill during the Second World War.
He said: "The journey so far has been a roller coaster. There have been so many ups and downs. The weather is something that's been out of my control.
"There have been some great times, including flying over the Grand Canyon and the Mississippi River. I'm looking forward to seeing my aunts, uncles and cousins while I'm here, as well as doing some touristy things like seeing Buckingham Palace."
Mr Smart started his adventure on July 4 from the Sunshine Coast of Queensland where he was brought up, and he hopes to return there as a record-breaker at the end of August.
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A young man in a fully equipped plastic fantastic is not really a newsworthy event. As Ghengis says it's just another thinly disguised pop at the person starring in other discussion.
It actually just demeans what the ying guy has done to be honest.
It actually just demeans what the ying guy has done to be honest.
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To nominate someone for an award in order to further a campaign against a particular person is wrong; which sure is how this is coming across, JS.
His achievement is laudable yes, and good on him. However, it's been done many times before. The only difference is his age.
His achievement is laudable yes, and good on him. However, it's been done many times before. The only difference is his age.
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Any connection would be to either Alcock and Brown or Charles Lindberg who flew broadly similar routes, or maybe Sheila Scott who completed a round the world flight.
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Now someone who does deserve awards, in my opinion, is Colin Hales.
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Jay Sata,
Highlighting the issues surrounding Tracey Curtis Taylor's trip, her apparent deceits and what many believe to be wholly underserved awards made by HCAP, the LAA and others to her was commendable work. You gave it a good shot and generated publicity that was eventually picked up, and as a result you have undoubtedly left egg on many faces.
Many here agree entirely with your view that TCT has not been entirely honest in her attempts to convince the masses that she has achieved great feats of airmanship and navigation. The memorable photograph of her standing in front of the claim that she was "alone in an aircraft" for xxx miles during her Africa trip adequately demonstrates the outright lie she passed off.
Despite this however I really do agree with others here that by nominating someone else for an award, as deserved as it may be, in order to pursue your attack on TCT is most certainly NOT the best way to further your argument.
Highlighting the issues surrounding Tracey Curtis Taylor's trip, her apparent deceits and what many believe to be wholly underserved awards made by HCAP, the LAA and others to her was commendable work. You gave it a good shot and generated publicity that was eventually picked up, and as a result you have undoubtedly left egg on many faces.
Many here agree entirely with your view that TCT has not been entirely honest in her attempts to convince the masses that she has achieved great feats of airmanship and navigation. The memorable photograph of her standing in front of the claim that she was "alone in an aircraft" for xxx miles during her Africa trip adequately demonstrates the outright lie she passed off.
Despite this however I really do agree with others here that by nominating someone else for an award, as deserved as it may be, in order to pursue your attack on TCT is most certainly NOT the best way to further your argument.
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I don't see what all the fuss is about. Rolf Harris and the Jimmy Savile nonsense was years ago, but people are allowed to freely discuss if they want to.
Yes, if an award was between an 18 year old in a plastic fantastic, whom has been open and honest with his endeavours OR a 'connected' Walter Mitty whom has been rather economical with the facts, the award would have to go with the former IMHO.
That said, I think others are more deserving, like the recent Russian balloon pilot.
Yes, if an award was between an 18 year old in a plastic fantastic, whom has been open and honest with his endeavours OR a 'connected' Walter Mitty whom has been rather economical with the facts, the award would have to go with the former IMHO.
That said, I think others are more deserving, like the recent Russian balloon pilot.
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There is a lot of choice this year but to fly a balloon around the world and pass over the point of take off takes some doing.
Forgive my ignorance but one question puzzles me.
Does such a circumnaviation record have to equate to the girth of the world? eg around 25'000 miles?
Forgive my ignorance but one question puzzles me.
Does such a circumnaviation record have to equate to the girth of the world? eg around 25'000 miles?