Logging only part of a flight - Logbook
Perhaps a slightly more realistic scenario has happened to me more than once. I am flying as PIC with a passenger who has an IMC rating and owns a share in the aircraft. Halfway through the trip the weather unexpectedly deteriorates and we cannot continue under VFR. I pass command to the other pilot so that we can legally continue. I have always logged only the time I was PIC and the normal T/O and landing times. Using this system I have completed a lot more flights in risky weather than I would have done as a sole PPL.
If a mentoring pilot wants to let you fly a while, how nice, accept the offer. But focus on the value of that as some familiarization for you rather than padding your logbook with a fraction of a flight.
After all, a large proportion of the “flying" hours recorded at a busy airfield is made up of sitting there with the engine(s) running and the brakes set. Logging a bit of airborne time under a different category doesn’t seem quite so terrible in comparison, does it...?
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Of course you can enter this in your logbook. Enter it in any column other than under P1, Dual, P-u/t, P2. SNY might not even be appropriate.
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Simple answer - Say thank you and stick it in your memory.
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Simple answer - Say thank you and stick it in your memory.
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I fly a taildragger, I take an instructor in the right seat who does not have a tailwheel ticket. He gives me some instruction in instrument flying with a hood over my head. I allow him to land the aircraft, which he does perfectly safely.
He cannot be PIC as he is not qualified on type, and therefore he is not qualified to instruct in this case. I cannot log Put as I don't have a qualified instructor. He cannot log Put for the landing as I am not an instructor.
Who logs what?
Just for the record, and for the avoidance of doubt, it was fun, we both enjoyed it.
I logged P1, he logged nothing.
He cannot be PIC as he is not qualified on type, and therefore he is not qualified to instruct in this case. I cannot log Put as I don't have a qualified instructor. He cannot log Put for the landing as I am not an instructor.
Who logs what?
Just for the record, and for the avoidance of doubt, it was fun, we both enjoyed it.
I logged P1, he logged nothing.
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Another scenario. Many years ago I had only a Bronze certificate on gliders. I flew with a gliding instructor/PPL in his Jodel. This was the first time I had ever sat in a light powered aircraft. The pilot had only one eye.
Returning to the airfield he got a piece of grit in his good eye, turned to me and said "to hell, you do it" half way down the downwind I closed the throttle and landed the aircraft in the manner to which I was accustomed. No problems.
Who logs what?
He is medically unable to fly. I am unqualified.
Returning to the airfield he got a piece of grit in his good eye, turned to me and said "to hell, you do it" half way down the downwind I closed the throttle and landed the aircraft in the manner to which I was accustomed. No problems.
Who logs what?
He is medically unable to fly. I am unqualified.
Crash one, as there are no type ratings on light aircraft I don't understand why he is unqualified to fly any light single/land.
AS far as the medical thing is concerned I think you are perfectly entitled to log P1 as long as the pilot was totally incapacitated; you invoke the "life and limb" clause and as you were in charge, ratings and qualifications notwithstanding you're entitled to the time. Your granny could log P1 on Concorde in a similar scenario I reckon.
AS far as the medical thing is concerned I think you are perfectly entitled to log P1 as long as the pilot was totally incapacitated; you invoke the "life and limb" clause and as you were in charge, ratings and qualifications notwithstanding you're entitled to the time. Your granny could log P1 on Concorde in a similar scenario I reckon.
