Flying over a built up area
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Flying over a built up area
I live in the NW, not far from Barton Airfield. Low level corridors I understand haven't flown for a while and not completely au fait with height restrictions for the area etc....
A Pitts flew over where I live, about half a mile away but over a built up area and a known housing area, not above 1000ft agl, and did a lazy barrel roll!
Thoughts and comments welcome......
A Pitts flew over where I live, about half a mile away but over a built up area and a known housing area, not above 1000ft agl, and did a lazy barrel roll!
Thoughts and comments welcome......
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Height is difficult to judge from the ground. However, the legalities are not to fly under a thousand foot over a gathering of (I think) a thousand people or more or a built up area. What the defintion of a built up area is I'm not sure. You certainly need to be able to glide clear of any built up area in case of a donk failure, so say if I'm flying over Manchester I would want to be at substantially more than a thousand feet.
If he/she was at a thousand feet and performed a barrel roll which didn't go under a thousand feet and they could glide clear and he had done a HASSL check before hand then really he/she had done nothing illegal.
Having said that I probably wouldn't do a barrel roll at a thousand feet over the outskirts of Manchester.
If he/she was at a thousand feet and performed a barrel roll which didn't go under a thousand feet and they could glide clear and he had done a HASSL check before hand then really he/she had done nothing illegal.
Having said that I probably wouldn't do a barrel roll at a thousand feet over the outskirts of Manchester.
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Might be interesting to have Nick J's "thoughts and comments" as a first time poster.
Edit: this is not everything I wrote here.
Edit: this is not everything I wrote here.
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I live in the NW, not far from Barton Airfield. Low level corridors I understand haven't flown for a while and not completely au fait with height restrictions for the area etc....
A Pitts flew over where I live, about half a mile away but over a built up area and a known housing area, not above 1000ft agl, and did a lazy barrel roll!
I live in the NW, not far from Barton Airfield. Low level corridors I understand haven't flown for a while and not completely au fait with height restrictions for the area etc....
A Pitts flew over where I live, about half a mile away but over a built up area and a known housing area, not above 1000ft agl, and did a lazy barrel roll!
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Chevron you are correct, it is not very clear on the charts but checking it out I see it is class D, but in this case MAN ATC are not providing the correct service!
I cannot find anything though that says aeros is actually illegal in CAS.
Class D. IFR and VFR flights are permitted and all flights are provided with air traffic control service, IFR flights are separated from other IFR flights and receive traffic information in respect of VFR flights, VFR flights receive traffic information in respect of all other flights.
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LLR is Class D, but is a special case
The low level route is a special version of Class D airspace that does not get a service from Manchester by default and requires no clearance to enter or transit. No need to speak to anyone, just listen out on 118.575 and squawk 7366 to let them know you are listening.
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/299/Manche...008NOV_CAA.pdf
This link is slightly out of date as the height restriction is now 1300 feet, but the rest of this still applies. 1000ft rule is not applicable, but you must be able to glide clear.
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http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/299/Manche...008NOV_CAA.pdf
This link is slightly out of date as the height restriction is now 1300 feet, but the rest of this still applies. 1000ft rule is not applicable, but you must be able to glide clear.
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You do not have to listen out or squawk, you can use it without either a radio or transponder, though of course it is not sensible to do so if you have them! I really cannot see what they achieve by having this class D rather than G, maybe it just allows the exemption from the 1,000' rule?
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Exactly.
If you fly down the LL Corridor VFR, then you have to be 1,000' clear of the congested area. If you go SVFR, then you are absolved of the 1,000' rule, but not the 500' rule or the glide-clear rule. When the corridor limit was 1250', it was impossible to fly the route VFR and not be in breach of the 1,000' rule.
And that was the whole point of the corridor.
If you fly down the LL Corridor VFR, then you have to be 1,000' clear of the congested area. If you go SVFR, then you are absolved of the 1,000' rule, but not the 500' rule or the glide-clear rule. When the corridor limit was 1250', it was impossible to fly the route VFR and not be in breach of the 1,000' rule.
And that was the whole point of the corridor.
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When the corridor limit was 1250', it was impossible to fly the route VFR and not be in breach of the 1,000' rule.
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