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Old 26th Jul 2015, 14:19
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I think you should report the flight to the CAA, police and Border Force.

You have no idea where the flight originated and you didn't give permission for it to use your land.

For all you know, he chucked a small packet out of the window into the hedge, which someone is collecting later.
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Old 26th Jul 2015, 14:50
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The amount my strip gets used (landed on and approaches down to 20 feet) without permission by gyros, micros and fixed wingers, I'd be on the phone every week to that lot!! I sometimes meet people for the first time who say "Oh I landed there a few months ago because it looked a lovely spot"!!

Unless GA pilots have all become a massive group of 'runners' (!) I'm pretty sure it's just another case of "let's get this strip in our logbook Mildred".
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Old 26th Jul 2015, 16:00
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Unless GA pilots have all become a massive group of 'runners' (!)
With fags pushing a tenner a pack it probably would be a lucrative earner without having to mess around with the Persian rugs.
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Old 26th Jul 2015, 23:19
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When I first opened my home runway in the late '80's, people occasionally came and went. Though I entirely respect those who choose to assert their private property rights, I did not get too concerned about it, other than for those few fools who would rut the runway when soft in the spring. To those, I did complain toe the flying school, and it stopped.

One morning a "Cub" like homebuilt dropped in and stopped. I started down to say hello. Before the pilot recognized me, I recognized him (as a very senior Transport Canada inspector of airworthiness). He had landed to pour jerry can gas carried in the back of the cabin, so he could make it home - Busted! He and I have had a fine relationship ever since.

I have learned to minimize my invitation of other fliers to land on my home runway. I have been told that if I make such an invitation, and they have an accident, I might be on the hook for it. One did, but the accident was so much poor flying skill, he knew it, and was obviously not thinking to try to fault my runway.
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Old 27th Jul 2015, 06:22
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Interesting - I had a similar thing about 15 years ago.

A chap I was renting some hangar space to had a nose-over in his tailwheel aircraft on landing. Nobody was hurt, and the bent airframe was pushed back into the hangar. At the time, he didn't really say what had caused it, and I didn't ask too much.

A few weeks later I had a phone call from his insurance company asking if I had any insurance cover for the airstrip because thy had been told by the pilot that the grass on the 650 metres he hadn't managed to shop on had been kept cut too short, and therefore not providing enough resistance to slow him down on landing!!

Since then, I've always been cautious about visitors - there are a frightening number of Aero-Muppets out there.
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Old 27th Jul 2015, 06:36
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phone call from his insurance company asking if I had any insurance cover for the airstrip because thy had been told by the pilot that the grass on the 650 metres he hadn't managed to shop on had been kept cut too short.
You honestly couldn't make this kind of stuff up, but you can imagine the horror story made up by your surprise visitor if he had damaged or written off the aircraft simply because he couldn't be bothered to obtain PPR and found the runway obstructed or water logged during the landing.
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Old 28th Jul 2015, 02:30
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Some of the culprits are probably not that good at reading signs but if you don't want visitors why not put out some semi-permanent white "X" indicators at the thresholds and near the windsock (if you have one)? You're then free to ignore them during your own use. I know the default should be PPR but, if it saves you a bit of grief, it'd be worth a try.
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Old 28th Jul 2015, 05:55
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Highlighting each end of the runway with a cross might be a good way of drawing undesirable attention to the existence of an airstrip.
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Old 28th Jul 2015, 08:11
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To an 'unserviceable' airstrip, yes.
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Old 28th Jul 2015, 10:20
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Theoretically unserviceable, unless and until kept under observation
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Old 31st Jul 2015, 01:12
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Make it a win-win?

Of all the responding posts on here BEagle's post #32 is the best:

http://www.pprune.org/private-flying...ml#post9058612

Why? Because it makes the point to the offender, but in the end (perhaps) a friendship is gained.

While I would never do what this person has done, neither am I perfect. I know that I've pi55ed people off in the past doing something that I thought was ok, but upon reflection really wasn't. I would have welcomed the opportunity to put that right, but just needed a catalyst to do so.

Mono, you're absolutely right to feel aggrieved, most of us would, but here's an opportunity to gently nudge someone in the ribs and say "that's not really cricket old chap, how about you shout me lunch next week and we can chat about flying" or words to that effect, make your point, and possibly gain the ear of someone you can bend about some legal thing next time you need to? In other words, you win

You might also find he's not such a bad type after all and he might get to use your field again sometime, but this time stop for a catchup. You both win

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