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Old 21st May 2015, 10:36
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The language of aviation RT is English.
Yes Crash but with a full blown Paddy accent for some words, I hear the local ATC lady saying "QFE one zero one TRREEE" the first part with a Scottish accent, the "3" part like she's just got off the boat from Donegal. Interestingly they seemed to have dropped using "niner" for 9.

In the end it's all good with no confusion or problem being understood.
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chevvron & LookingForAJob, Absolutely

Bas - also ex ATCO RAF
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Yes Crash but with a full blown Paddy accent for some words, I hear the local ATC lady saying "QFE one zero one TRREEE" the first part with a Scottish accent, the "3" part like she's just got off the boat from Donegal. Interestingly they seemed to have dropped using "niner" for 9.
Absolutely Piperboy, but this is what I was referring to

Braincells needed for remembering 1 inch is 12 foods which is 36 yards and one mile is 1760 yards or whatever can be used for something much more useful
"Fife radio runway two fife, wun zero zero fife?"

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UK metric system:

1 furlong = 10 chains
1 acre = 1 furlong x 1 chain

I remember when we finally got rid of the rod, pole and perch - which were 1/4 of a chain! So a furlong was 40 chains or 220 yards.

At RAFC Cranwell, our USAF War Studies instructor gave us the speed of the SR-71 in British Units...furlongs per fortnight....

In the MKS system, fuel consumption should technically be cubic metres per metre - i.e. square metres. The continentals use litres per 100 km as even they would find square metres rather odd.

Back to RT - I always described 'to' and 'for' (or were they 'two' and 'four') as the 'Dangerous Dative'. The US-style clearance 'climb / maintain four thousand' was better than 'climb four thousand' as it was unambiguous.

Oh - and the UK 'cran'? That was defined as 37.5 gallons of fresh herring!

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What the firkin cubit is that about?
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Old 21st May 2015, 19:08
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I thought a cran was four baskets, each which had to have a ministry brand.
At school, I had no problems with poundals, pounds force, pounds, slugs, etc. After 25+ years on SI units, I bought a bargain textbook on fishing boat stability, using Imperial units. I quickly gave up.
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While we are on the subject and surrounded by experts. Serious question, what is the difference/conversion factor, Horse power to Brake horse power. I think we now only use Brake horse power but the "brake" part seems to be omitted.?
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Old 21st May 2015, 21:25
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In the MKS system, fuel consumption should technically be cubic metres per metre - i.e. square metres.
Or you could express fuel consumption in Standard Wire Gauge.

Which makes sense - think of the vehicle moving along slurping up a cylinder of that thickness of fuel.
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I was lucky enough to score a type rating on a L 29 Delphin jet trainer. I described the max chat low level fuel burn by saying the airplane drank a North American standard beer glass filled with Jet A every second

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BPF,

I didn't get a type-rating but enough time in a Vampire to appreciate the wallet-emptying fuel consumption.

In English beer-drinking units, we are talking 1/2 pint per second or 30 pints per minute.

The Vampire's owner said the DH Goblin was aptly named, as it gobbled fuel!
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"negative, keep that rubbish away you shoud switch to decimals and metrics.."

Surely Hectopascals is metric?
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The Vampire's owner said the DH Goblin was aptly named, as it gobbled fuel!
Recently watched 'Jet!' on BBC4.
Ex Lightning jock nodded towards parked English Electric Fizzgo and remarked: "I could empty that in fifteen minutes."

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Surely Hectopascals is metric?
Almost, but not quite. It's based on a scale of 10.1325 Pa. The early scientists (including Blaise Pascal, who developed an early barometer) did pretty well in determining the 'standard atmosphere' but got it a bit wrong. No-one has seen fit to change it since.

I think the 'inches of Mercury' approach is just as valid, the big danger is having 2 systems so open to confusion in common use.

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