EASA PPL to Full FAA PPL
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EASA PPL to Full FAA PPL
Hi,
I am just curious to learn how you can convert an EASA PPL(H) with no valid type rating to a FAA PPL(H)?
Basically in 2010 I did a UK CAA JAR PPL(H) with a Robinson Type Rating, but have since let it lapse and I have not flown in well over a year. I am planning on a career in airline flying and hope to get my fATPL(A) soon(ish).
I would like to keep my Helicopter PPL and the only way I will realistically fly helicopters for fun anymore, is by going away on flying holidays to the states.
I do not want the so called, FAA Piggy Back licence (based on my CAA one) I often hear people talk about.
I will not renew my Robinson Type rating in England. I would be happy to lose my UK CAA PPL(H) if I could get my hands on a FAA PPL(H).
So, is it possible to go to say Florida and gain a traditional FAA PPL(H) like someone with zero experience but in my case I would hopefully get credited a huge chunk of the 40hours flying training course?
I hope I have explained myself enough for someone to help clarify my question.
Thank You.
I am just curious to learn how you can convert an EASA PPL(H) with no valid type rating to a FAA PPL(H)?
Basically in 2010 I did a UK CAA JAR PPL(H) with a Robinson Type Rating, but have since let it lapse and I have not flown in well over a year. I am planning on a career in airline flying and hope to get my fATPL(A) soon(ish).
I would like to keep my Helicopter PPL and the only way I will realistically fly helicopters for fun anymore, is by going away on flying holidays to the states.
I do not want the so called, FAA Piggy Back licence (based on my CAA one) I often hear people talk about.
I will not renew my Robinson Type rating in England. I would be happy to lose my UK CAA PPL(H) if I could get my hands on a FAA PPL(H).
So, is it possible to go to say Florida and gain a traditional FAA PPL(H) like someone with zero experience but in my case I would hopefully get credited a huge chunk of the 40hours flying training course?
I hope I have explained myself enough for someone to help clarify my question.
Thank You.
Look at 61.109(c). You'll be able to fill most of the squares already. The three hours in the last two months you have to do here. So your steps are:
TSA background check
Written test
Medical
Flight training
Checkride
TSA background check
Written test
Medical
Flight training
Checkride
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If you do[ not want to piggyback then you go can do all the exams, all the flight training and the flight test - just as if you had no license.
If you have a plan to fly in the US and build rstings to a CFI or commercial it makes sense - your prior traing will let you get to PPL quicker.
If you want to be able to fly US reg machines somewhere that you current license is no usable - then the piggyback makes sense as it it a simple case of getting the CAA letter snd filling out forms - the FAA PPL (H) is issued, to be valid your original license must be valid be in flight review and you must have a current medical for that license - then you MUST hzve a current FAA flight review.
Sounds complicated but it isn't.
There is only one other reason to get a non piggyback PPL that is where one can get an FAA Class 3 but not a JAA Class 2.
Also the piggyback isaz one shot deal get an airplane piggyback and one cannot then get a PPL helicopter (or other rating).
Good luck with it though
If you have a plan to fly in the US and build rstings to a CFI or commercial it makes sense - your prior traing will let you get to PPL quicker.
If you want to be able to fly US reg machines somewhere that you current license is no usable - then the piggyback makes sense as it it a simple case of getting the CAA letter snd filling out forms - the FAA PPL (H) is issued, to be valid your original license must be valid be in flight review and you must have a current medical for that license - then you MUST hzve a current FAA flight review.
Sounds complicated but it isn't.
There is only one other reason to get a non piggyback PPL that is where one can get an FAA Class 3 but not a JAA Class 2.
Also the piggyback isaz one shot deal get an airplane piggyback and one cannot then get a PPL helicopter (or other rating).
Good luck with it though
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In addition to 61.109, 61.41 is helpful. You'll just need documentation of the training received. In the US, instructors sign off logbook entries. Not so common in some parts of Europe...
Also, if the primary purpose of your visit to the U.S. is flight training, you'll need a visa which can only be obtained when working with a SEVIS-certified Part 141 school.
As for the piggyback: in order to use the FAA certificate, you need a fully valid and current European license/type rating/medical. Obviously, the OP doesn't have that. You also need a current flight review with a U S CFI Per 61.56, but that's another matter.
Also, if the primary purpose of your visit to the U.S. is flight training, you'll need a visa which can only be obtained when working with a SEVIS-certified Part 141 school.
As for the piggyback: in order to use the FAA certificate, you need a fully valid and current European license/type rating/medical. Obviously, the OP doesn't have that. You also need a current flight review with a U S CFI Per 61.56, but that's another matter.
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In the US, instructors sign off logbook entries. Not so common in some parts of Europe...
Yes, true, but -> any application you file, either by ATO or direct, states the trainings received. In Europe most ATO keep copies of submitted applications, as the receiving authorities not always keep them. So, usually there is a way to document training received even when not signed off in logbook.
Yes, true, but -> any application you file, either by ATO or direct, states the trainings received. In Europe most ATO keep copies of submitted applications, as the receiving authorities not always keep them. So, usually there is a way to document training received even when not signed off in logbook.
