VERY Short Approach
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VERY Short Approach
Short Approach at KSNA.. Please don't try this without proper training. Enjoy the video.
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Short Approach KSNA - YouTube
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Short Approach KSNA - YouTube
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Nothing there any competent experienced PPL couldn't do. Safer than those long, low dragged-in approaches one sees, off a bomber circuit. And much more appreciated by those behind you in the circuit, or paying the flying bills while waiting on the ground for their next lift / glider tow!
Oh, and it's more fun, too!
Oh, and it's more fun, too!
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From: Near Stuttgart, Germany
Why is he taking away this landing from his student? Better to make the approach not-so-short but let the guy fly who pays for it. And why is he fiddling and twisting around with his throttle all the time? That drives me mad just by looking.
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perhaps the left seat guy was a trial lesson thing
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I see lots of similar approaches at my home base. No2 and sometimes No3 will lose patience, peel off and land while No1 trundles on with his Bomber circuit to a two mile final.
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So why did he land on the numbers and then trundle for miles to the far end of the runway to the taxiway? Far better airmanship to have landed deeper into the runway to allow for a much shorter taxi to the turn off.
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So why did he land on the numbers and then trundle for miles to the far end of the runway to the taxiway? Far better airmanship to have landed deeper into the runway to allow for a much shorter taxi to the turn off.
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I was taught in the '60's to do curved approaches like that, in Austers, but with a hefty side-slip, full flap and no power, roll out at 20', and thus a much steeper descent. You had to hit the touchdown point accurately, or go on practising until you could do that very time.
My instructor believed in teaching students to fly, really fly, not just to pass the PPL GFT. One result was that forced landings for people he taught were no big deal.
My instructor believed in teaching students to fly, really fly, not just to pass the PPL GFT. One result was that forced landings for people he taught were no big deal.
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I thought it must be the friction system, though why he keeps on doing it beats me. I have this tactile memory of a push/pull throttle, maybe a Cessna model, with a friction control like that; I think you turned it clockwise to lock the thing in place, and vv.
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Just a pointlessly low final turn... he floated for half a mile
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You can't see it in the video but in the position where he starts his base turn, he's overhead tall buildings that top out at about half circuit height, or higher. It'd be fun to watch from that vantage point.
I don't like steep turns close to the ground myself, but a friend does that kind of approach all the time when I fly with him. His father died at 90 a short time ago, after a long life of flying... and for 40 years he told the son not to do that!
Presumably people have seen a vernier throttle before.
I don't like steep turns close to the ground myself, but a friend does that kind of approach all the time when I fly with him. His father died at 90 a short time ago, after a long life of flying... and for 40 years he told the son not to do that!
Presumably people have seen a vernier throttle before.
Last edited by Silvaire1; 18th October 2014 at 00:23.