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Old 3rd Jun 2014, 13:56
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This is why one should never read the swimsuit issue of sports illustrated when sunbathing on the beach.
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Old 3rd Jun 2014, 14:34
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A GIV crashes in MA killing 7 people and it is swiftly removed to "Biz Jets" yet some idiot in a puddle jumper that didn't hit nor kill anybody remains top of the pile in "Flight Deck Forums"!

Am I missing something?
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Old 3rd Jun 2014, 15:20
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This is why one should never read the swimsuit issue of sports illustrated when sunbathing on the beach.
- unless you have dug yourself a little pit, of course..................

Amazing what you find on R&N, Phil, innit?
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Old 3rd Jun 2014, 21:17
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.....or does the person with the camera film every arrival?
Good point, when I see some of the so called "amazing" shots taken when the photographer " just happened" to be pressing the shutter release at the moment of amazement, I do wonder just why was he aiming his camera at that spot at that time ?

Not the case here I agree, but with Photoshop so readily available I now view a lot of the stuff published on the Internet with scepticism. You Tube is OK, they are often so obviously deliberately staged comedies.

Cynic ? Moi ?

.......a VC10 into Grand Cayman on a trainer (5,000' in those days)
Regular 707 services into the old Osaka - 6000'+ - concentrated the mind, too.

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I would be more concerned about the prop clearance if a plane flew just over my nether regions!
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Old 4th Jun 2014, 13:20
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Good thing the chap who did a touch and go on the crossing runway with a 737 in the seventies didn't come short. The legend says he was a Lufthansa captain on his last flight before retirement.

Picture of this old chestnut of German aviation here.
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Old 4th Jun 2014, 13:45
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Unless I'm missing something that was way too low on approach, fast and flapless. you could hear the tyres squeal under braking on 500 metres of runway! It went straight through the fence so where the fence bits went is anyone's guess.

Should have been steeper and if memory serves (long time since I had an Archer 2) 55 to 65 KIAS full flap.
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Old 4th Jun 2014, 14:02
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Originally Posted by Johnm
flapless
Not completely flapless, though.
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Old 4th Jun 2014, 14:11
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flaps appeared fully extended.
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Old 4th Jun 2014, 16:24
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Typical 'aeroplane driver' (not a pilot). Not only far too short so he flies through the fence, but plonks it down fast on all 3 wheels then stands on the brakes! Not unusual for Cherrytree 'pilots' to drive it into the ground 3-point and fast, but that guy needs to learn to land.
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Old 4th Jun 2014, 17:00
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Excuse me,......I'm an unashamed aeroplane driver since as far as I'm concerned an aeroplane is basically a car with wings. I can land one just as well as someone who thinks flying is about fossicking around the sky to no purpose
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Old 4th Jun 2014, 18:30
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It's not whether you do it with 'purpose' that matters, it's whether you do it with 'feeling'.
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Old 4th Jun 2014, 19:25
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on 500 metres of runway
Who speaks of 500 metres? After some initial uncertainty, all forums that mention this "incident" agree that it was on the 21 runway, a bare 371 metres long. Even if the landing was not top class, IMHO the first and main error was the decision to land that plane on that runway. But we do not know the actual gross weight, neither have I seen the local METAR's. Curious, that: all and sundry have their word to say, but nobody has checked the wind.
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Old 4th Jun 2014, 20:54
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In the USA we practice our shortfield landings over a 50' obstacle, so the guy would have been OK even if he had been laying on his back.

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Old 5th Jun 2014, 07:33
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a bare 371 metres long
I watched a PA28 land at Portland Naval Air Station some years ago - it used about 3/4 of the 229m 'runway' (in nil wind).
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Old 5th Jun 2014, 08:31
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There used to be a chap who flew various aeroplanes out of Liverpool, and was keen on farm strip flying. I've seen him land a PA28 with the shortest landing by far of any of the more 'strip-oriented' aeroplanes to land there. But, he knew how to land an aeroplane.
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Old 5th Jun 2014, 13:21
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There is a video of an aircraft hitting a car crossing a track very close to the end of the runway.

Yes this was bad flying but there are many bad pilots out there and the approaches should be kept clear.

People should not be allowed to sunbath so close to the runway and in the cars case it is the cars responsibility to check if there are no lights that the approach is clear before crossing with caution.

People and cars should give way to aircraft as that piece of airspace belongs to them and a bit like sailing ships control is not always that accurate.
This guy was an example of poor piloting skills but there are other reasons including wind shear that an aircraft maybe lower than ideal.

it is not the fault of the pilots but the authorities who should make sure that areas so close to the runway are no go areas for the public or vehicles otherwise a tragic accident is in the making.

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Old 5th Jun 2014, 14:10
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In 1973 some Lufthansa 737-200 pretended to approach Heligoland as a prank during an empty training flight. Rumours claim the pilots got fired for it.

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Old 5th Jun 2014, 19:19
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Jan O, they don´t seem to publish official METARs for this small island airport. The airport website only shows actual wind speed and direction as well as temperature. As far as I could find out, this incident took place on May 30 at 1 pm local time. Weather records from Wunderground show wind at Helgoland at 10 knots from the west, a 60 degree crosswind, but that weather station is most likely on the main island and not on the dune island where the airport is. On the other hand, 4 or 5 aircraft had landed on the same runway (21) before this pilot, so he probably just followed them and the windsock?
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