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Old 24th Feb 2014, 18:59
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Hot air balloons

Does anybody else have an almost irresistible urge to fly around them in circles like a demented bluebottle round a lampshade? I've hitherto resisted.

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Oh yes! And on several occasions I didn't resist the temptation (but not too close, of course), and just one orbit.
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Dropped flaps and did a slow cct round one over Chatsworth last year. Lots of waving etc.

Although they may have been waving 'P*** off away from us.'
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And of course the 500ft rule applies......
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What, you have to break away at 500' when you're pretending to strafe Hun observation balloons?
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500ft rule doesn't apply.
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Feel free to do demented bluebottle around my elegant yellow and black ladies' aerial carriage. Just remember who flew first.
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Cusco, I agree with Mad Jock
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They are both in the air so what has the 500 foot rule got to do with it? Mind you, I seem to remember something about formation flying being agreed beforehand......
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your not formatting either.

The only thing you can be accused of is endangerment. Which is an open ended accusation. And if the pilot of the aircraft said there wasn't any danger and the pilot of the balloon says there was no endangerment it would be a brave legal type to take it to court.
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When I was flying balloons, I used to enjoy being buzzed by light aircraft. A chap in a Pitts once did a flypast with an 8 point hesitation roll, absolutely fantastic.
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Actually flying circles around a hot air balloon on a day when the wind is say fifteen knots and maintaining a constant distance from the balloon and then having the student fly a circle maintaining a constant distance from an object on the ground is an excellent lesson.
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Actually flying circles around a hot air balloon on a day when the wind is say fifteen knots
But the balloon is travelling in the same block of air as the aircraft...
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I think that was the point that Chuck was making - fly round balloon, then fly round a point on the ground and notice the difference...
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Balloon pilots don't have quite the same obsession with "lookout" as their heavier-than-air counterparts do - after all we have right of way and if something is coming towards you there isn't much you can do. I was once flying a passenger ride and was "head down" sorting something out when I heard a hell of a noise - looked up to see two Spitfires (or it could have been a Spit and a Hurricane) going past, one each side of the basket. Noise explained, I went back to what I was doing. After I landed the ground crew asked me if I had seen the Lancaster which went underneath .....

Back in the early days of flex-wing microlights with limited performance it was always quite amusing to pop in to a climb as they buzzed up and watch them howling away at full power never quite managing to catch up!
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I think that was the point that Chuck was making - fly round balloon, then fly round a point on the ground and notice the difference...
Got it now Bit early in the morning for me...
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Back in the early days of flex-wing microlights with limited performance it was always quite amusing to pop in to a climb as they buzzed up and watch them howling away at full power never quite managing to catch up!
So that was you !

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I suppose my other confession would be that the first time I saw a balloon near my flight path I started to get interested in it, then realised that I had altered my course slightly and was now heading straight for it! I was far enough away that it was nowhere near a 'near miss' but I could see how you could be drawn into a collision - same principle as cars in Holland where on long straight stretches of road people are apparently drawn to having head-on collisions.
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Remember the weekend that a JP instructor from Sleaford Tech decided to pull a few turns around a balloon in a motor-glider, making the mistake of giving some Churchillian signs in the process. Cue Monday morning interview (no hats or coffee) with the Commandant who happened to be in said balloon with Mrs Commandant
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exactly, can't resist at all, it is always like "wow a baloon, I need to have closer look right now"


and yes "Although they may have been waving 'P*** off away from us.' "
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