Help me design a rental airplane.

[Chuck Ellsworth]

I'm not convinced you can use an amateur built for flight training in Canada except for the owner getting training in his own aircraft (similar to other countries)

Even though Canada is more a socialist country than the USSR was there are still some loopholes left for private enterprise to stagger along somewhat, but the nanny state is slowly strangling any signs of the sheep wandering from the socialist flock.

It is still legal for me to rent any vehicle I own and before renting it is legal for me to confirm that the renter can in fact operate the vehicle to a standard that I will rent it to them.

The Cub is perfect for examining a pilots ability to properly handle an airplane, when they are comfortable with doing thirty touch and goes in thirty minutes I am satisfied they will be safe in the CX4 which is easier to fly.

Actually as far as legalities are concerned I don't even have to have a pilots license to do check outs in an airplane I own as long as the pilot who wants to rent it has a license that covers the class of airplane being rented.

[Chuck Ellsworth]

Hi gang!!

I am back and want your opinion on what to put in the panel of the CX4.

Shall I keep it basic with the minimum VFR steam gauges?

Shall I go for a Dynon EFIS?

I am very interested in what you all think.

[IFMU]

For a CX4 I would keep it simple. Curious why you would choose a CX4 over a Onex for this mission. A buddy of mine is scratch building a CX4 and it looks good. The Onex has matched hole parts which would reduce the time to get it in service. I would see the CX4 as a choice of aesthetics and a love of building. Turning people loose in an airplane with a lot of personal hours invested would seem hard. Never thought of this sort of arrangement as it is not legal in the US. I am building a Waiex which is where I am familiar with the Sonex kits.
Bryan

[Chuck Ellsworth]

Hi Bryan:

For a CX4 I would keep it simple.

Initially that was my intent but as I examine why I am doing this I am beginning to put myself in the position of some young person wishing to begin a career in aviation......there is a time gap between the PPL and CPL where I want to make that period the time where they learn things the schools do not teach..........and looking back at my career that started with the radio range and ended with the glass cockpits I believe that adding glass to the training will be to their best interest.

Curious why you would choose a CX4 over a Onex for this mission.

The CX4 looks more conventional than the Onex and it does not have a nose wheel on it, the nose wheel is to airplanes what the tricycle is to bikes.

A buddy of mine is scratch building a CX4 and it looks good. The Onex has matched hole parts which would reduce the time to get it in service.

There are many pre-built parts now available for the CX4 which I plan on using.

I would see the CX4 as a choice of aesthetics and a love of building.

Turning people loose in an airplane with a lot of personal hours invested would seem hard.

With proper training and more important ensuring they have the correct mind set and their focus is on safety the risk is very low.....

....another way of looking at it is if I put twenty five or thirty thousand dollars in a new car what will I have in five or ten years from now?

Never thought of this sort of arrangement as it is not legal in the US. I am building a Waiex which is where I am familiar with the Sonex kits.
Bryan

Interesting, why did you choose the V tail?

Once again thanks for your time and comments Brian.

Chuck E.

[IFMU]

Chuck,
I chose the Y tail because it looks cool. I know some will say I am a victim of clever marketing. I guess I see myself as more of a fork-tailed devil than a straight tail heathen. Never mind that I have never flown any V tail yet.

Of course you know the Onex comes with conventional gear. It will be easy to build, same materials and rivets as a CX4. As a reformed scratch builder (hummelbird, on pause for the Waiex) I find the cleco together aspect refreshing. I like the fact that Sonexes are approved for acro.
My Waiex project:
SonexBuilders.net View topic - Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX
Bryan

[Chuck Ellsworth]

V tails are rare, however Beech made a very nice one the Bonanza.

I only got to fly one for a few hours and found it to be a delightful machine.

We will keep in touch here and share our building experiences, I just received the plans a day ago and will not be starting the building until the summer when I plan on picking up the wing and tail kits and whatever else I can find on my last motorhome trip....I am selling my motorhome while it is still worth something and putting some money into another airplane project.

If I keep my motorhome it will have depreciated the cost of building a CX4 in about three years.