Trial flight- what to expect?
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So we are really talking about illegality and lack of insurance not increased risk!
Level Attitude,
I think you gave a good summary of what I did by purchasing this voucher. Before buying the voucher, I talked with both the Company selling the voucher and the guy from the club with whom I flew. I wanted to see what it feels to be in command of a SEP and if I remotely posses the skills to acquire a PPL so I proposed to handle the flight as a trial lesson. (Other people bought this voucher and just flew around the city for 30 minutes). So I asked to fly with an instructor. The guy made crystal clear that an instructor could not guaranteed for the day and I was free not to buy the voucher but we agreed that I could have the controls for a long time and they would be taken if there was something wrong. I was seeing the experience as trial lesson he saw it as one more experience flight he had this day. In all flights (before and after mine) he was seating in the right.
I am wondering how things would have happened in Germany in a similar situation?
Any thoughts?
Rwy in Sight
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I'm starting to think that this is a wind up. We all told you the real truth about this supposed Trial Lesson. You chose to ignore the advice and apparently went ahead anyway..
This is not legal in most Countries - please understand this and stop asking daft questions when we've already given you clear advice.
If you really want to take some lessons, go to a proper Flying School who know how to teach.
This is not legal in most Countries - please understand this and stop asking daft questions when we've already given you clear advice.
If you really want to take some lessons, go to a proper Flying School who know how to teach.
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RWY
Well you have achieved what you want and appear to be happy!
So great !
Maybe you can buy a PPL training coupon ? I am sure they will do you a good deal and you could use the PPL for instruction ?
Sounds good
Have fun that is what it's all about
Pace
Well you have achieved what you want and appear to be happy!
So great !
Maybe you can buy a PPL training coupon ? I am sure they will do you a good deal and you could use the PPL for instruction ?
Sounds good
Have fun that is what it's all about
Pace
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Everyone seems to be getting at the OP here.
Also it will be awkward if an investigator gets hold of it all and wants to chat about it one day.
It's not a particular risk, if you know someone who holds a PPL then I'm sure you'd have no problem in going flying with them, but it's the level of cover that is missing in this case, and the fact the flight is illegal means that if things had gone wrong then they wouldn't have a leg to stand on.
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DeeCee,
The thread was not a wind up. However I am tempeted to change the title to remove the "Trial" word and add the voucher aspect. I am extremely aware that I could not log it as a trial / training flight, just as have fun experience. If your problem is the wording (and you prefer "I purchase a voucher for a flight with a SEP from the left seat what to expect?") I am happy to correct it.
Once again, I wanted to feel the controls of the aircraft see what it feels to turn final and all these things associated with flying. I did a lesson or two in martial arts (I think Karate and Aikido and I don't want to do it again - I don't have what it takes). I am sure plenty of other people bought a voucher, handled the controls landed with far less discussion that we had in this lovely thread - I am not being ironic here.
I have already thinking about the PPL and it was made clear from the people of the club that I need a medical if I want to log any flight time. I understand some of the issues associated with the PPL and I want to start reading more before I commit myself to it.
RTN11, Pace, if PPRuNe sells training coupon I would by one to fly with you guys. If you happen to head in my direction I would be happy to buy you a beer/wine or two for your patience with me.
The thread was not a wind up. However I am tempeted to change the title to remove the "Trial" word and add the voucher aspect. I am extremely aware that I could not log it as a trial / training flight, just as have fun experience. If your problem is the wording (and you prefer "I purchase a voucher for a flight with a SEP from the left seat what to expect?") I am happy to correct it.
Once again, I wanted to feel the controls of the aircraft see what it feels to turn final and all these things associated with flying. I did a lesson or two in martial arts (I think Karate and Aikido and I don't want to do it again - I don't have what it takes). I am sure plenty of other people bought a voucher, handled the controls landed with far less discussion that we had in this lovely thread - I am not being ironic here.
I have already thinking about the PPL and it was made clear from the people of the club that I need a medical if I want to log any flight time. I understand some of the issues associated with the PPL and I want to start reading more before I commit myself to it.
RTN11, Pace, if PPRuNe sells training coupon I would by one to fly with you guys. If you happen to head in my direction I would be happy to buy you a beer/wine or two for your patience with me.
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I have already thinking about the PPL and it was made clear from the people of the club that I need a medical if I want to log any flight time.
From the way this thread has been going I was half expecting you to say that the club had a Nurse who could issue medicals
and that they sold Medical coupons.If you want to go ahead do research how you are going to do that and with who and look at flying clubs around where you live
Pace
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Pace,
I think from the begining we put more consideration (beyond insurance) in this venutre that it was due. Although I am in favor of doing things in a legal way and tend to seek insurance cover the thread gain a life on its own.
As a matter of fact the president of the club suggested the path to the PPL but he refrained from mentionning the school offering the course. And although it would fit better in Jet Blast the company that sold me the original coupon does sell all kind of stuff even a coupon for a PPL with HERO aviation. No I did not buy it.
And to pay tribune to Slasher, if the nurse were to his like, having a go at the medical with her would have been intresting.
Finally it is intresting to see how much variations we still have in Europe despite EASA's efforts to harmonize rules and regulations.
Rwy in Sight
I think from the begining we put more consideration (beyond insurance) in this venutre that it was due. Although I am in favor of doing things in a legal way and tend to seek insurance cover the thread gain a life on its own.
As a matter of fact the president of the club suggested the path to the PPL but he refrained from mentionning the school offering the course. And although it would fit better in Jet Blast the company that sold me the original coupon does sell all kind of stuff even a coupon for a PPL with HERO aviation. No I did not buy it.
And to pay tribune to Slasher, if the nurse were to his like, having a go at the medical with her would have been intresting.
Finally it is intresting to see how much variations we still have in Europe despite EASA's efforts to harmonize rules and regulations.
Rwy in Sight
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Legal in aus for RA-Aus I think, but not legal in GA aircraft, only LSA. I know glider pilots (power or not) only need an endorsement on the licence to instruct. Pretty sure its the same for an RA-Aus registered light aircraft.
Will check up on that, one of my staff is a rec pilot.
Will check up on that, one of my staff is a rec pilot.
