Passenger lands plane at Humberside Airport after pilot falls ill
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it was the thought of somethign like this that made me husband persuade me to take some basic flight training after he got his PPL.
Unfortunately for him . I got bitten by the bug and am now working on my own PPL.
It was a case in the US where I guy had a heart attack and died at the controls leaving his wife to land the plane. She'd had some training and luckily managed, that preempted this conversation between us.
Unfortunately for him . I got bitten by the bug and am now working on my own PPL.
It was a case in the US where I guy had a heart attack and died at the controls leaving his wife to land the plane. She'd had some training and luckily managed, that preempted this conversation between us.
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It is terribly sad that the pilot in this incident should die like this but, as I understand it, it was him that made the initial Mayday call. That must have been a difficult thing to do and he deserves kudos for having done it, as do the passenger and the instructors who got the plane down safely between them. 
I would also like to add my sincere condolences to the family and friends.
On the subject of pinch hitting: both my wife and daughter have done the Cirrus Partner in Command course and gained a great deal from it both in terms of understanding what to do if something happens to me, but also in terms of their general understanding of what is going on when we fly.
I would recommend a course of this kind to any non pilot passenger.
I would also like to add my sincere condolences to the family and friends.
On the subject of pinch hitting: both my wife and daughter have done the Cirrus Partner in Command course and gained a great deal from it both in terms of understanding what to do if something happens to me, but also in terms of their general understanding of what is going on when we fly.
I would recommend a course of this kind to any non pilot passenger.
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Interviews with the guy (77 and no lessons) that got that plane down are on BBC. Very moving and confirms his lack of experience. Interview with Ops Director at Humberside very revealing. Seems like he got back to Sandtoft, orbited but they then managed to get him to Humberside where he was instructed to do a go-around then got it down. Most of it in the dark. He did well but our ATC and instructor friends are the real heroes here. Well done folks.
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Well done to the pax and the guys on the ground for getting the aircraft safely down with a good outcome, condolences to the pilots family and friends.
No one knows when we may succumb to a medical emergency, personally I'm happy my wife took a high pitcher course just in case she has to get herself down with the increased chances of a good outcome if the situation ever arises.
No one knows when we may succumb to a medical emergency, personally I'm happy my wife took a high pitcher course just in case she has to get herself down with the increased chances of a good outcome if the situation ever arises.
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Come on?! What's happening here? This isn'tthe PPrune of old?
Surely the key story here is how the passenger was unlicensed, without a valid medical and a damn nuisance to himself and everyone else in the air? Surely you lot should all be weighing in with a right kicking for everyone involved?
Get a grip people. This is PPrune NOT a flying forum about helping & supporting other private pilots!
Surely the key story here is how the passenger was unlicensed, without a valid medical and a damn nuisance to himself and everyone else in the air? Surely you lot should all be weighing in with a right kicking for everyone involved?
Get a grip people. This is PPrune NOT a flying forum about helping & supporting other private pilots!
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What an amazing achievement by Mr. Murray and the passenger/pilot. Remembering my first attempts at controlling an aeroplane, I doubt I could have done it.
I presume the CAA wheels are in motion to prosecute the passenger for flying without a licence or medical?
I presume the CAA wheels are in motion to prosecute the passenger for flying without a licence or medical?
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Brian Lecomber wrote an excellent book called "Talkdown" based on just such a story line with a female pax (had to be a beautiful heroine for the book!) landed a Piper Arrow (or something similar) being talked down by a formatting instructor pilot.
Still go it! It's a good read......
Still go it! It's a good read......
If the passenger (who did a brilliant job) had had previous access to
, things might not have been so frightening for him.
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Surely the key story here is how the passenger was unlicensed, without a valid medical and a damn nuisance to himself and everyone else in the air? Surely you lot should all be weighing in with a right kicking for everyone involved?
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To be fair if that's YR its perfectly normal to bounce it on the first landing even for people with loads of hours in a C172.
Bad news about the instructor, well done to the PAX for landing safe and I hope its the start of a long connection with aviation and the event hasn't put you off.
Bad news about the instructor, well done to the PAX for landing safe and I hope its the start of a long connection with aviation and the event hasn't put you off.
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Yeah, I was just wondering who gets to log what on this flight.
With all due respect, my sincere condolences and latterly congratulations, at the same time.
I'm sure the bereaved family are very grateful to the passenger/captain.
Well done to all involved in getting the aircraft down in one piece.
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Brian Lecomber wrote an excellent book called "Talkdown" based on just such a story line
There, but for the Grace of God, go any one of us, I suppose.
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Talk down
One of the Instructors ( Rob ???? ) at Henlow Flying Club did the same whilst he was an instructor at Swansea. Pilot has a heart attack and son in law landed the aircraft with rob formating alongside. I think the aircraft was a Rallye ( tin parachute).
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Yes, well done that pax. However, I suspect he'd been flying with his mate (the guy who unfortunately died) before, and no doubt had 'had a go' with his mate giving him some unofficial instruction.
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"Guide to landing"
First - Congratulations to the passenger and condolences to the pilot's family.
Second - Please see the Daily Telegraph, 10 Oct, page 5 - "Guide to landing a light Plane" and see how many errors you can count!
Second - Please see the Daily Telegraph, 10 Oct, page 5 - "Guide to landing a light Plane" and see how many errors you can count!