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Old 1st Oct 2013, 21:11
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1) There is no plural of the word 'simple'.
...unless you are an Eastern European meerkat.
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The prop was turning under power at the time of touchdown because the pilot forgot to put the gear down. It really is that " simple "
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Thanks for the picture Big Pistons; that should end the debate! This prop was clearly rotating at impact!

Sheep Driver, thanks for the grammar lesson. You're clearly not familiar with the annoying Eastern European Meerkats we have on TV here in UK!
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1) There is no plural of the word 'simple'.
I would have thought anything was possible in a dialect where "finals" were what you did before one landing....
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There'd be a heck of a lot more damage to the prop if it had been under power when it hit the runway! Our Yak's just disintegrated in a shower of wood, leaving two mangled stumps! And that was with the engine throttled back. The pilot told me afterwards that the first thing that alerted him to the problem was the bits of wood flying everywhere like a wooden snowstorm!

I say again, watch the first video. It clearly shows the prop stop before runway contact. And therefore no wooden snowstorm!
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Shaggy see post # 19.....
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At about 14 Sec on the original video you can hear the noise change as the prop tips start to touch the ground then the engine finally stops about 16 Sec in. In any case, listen to what Big Pistons in saying; look at post #19. The pilot forgot to put the gear down!!
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I have a couple of nails, a hammer, short shaft, and perhaps we can source the wood from the remaining bits of prop

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The pilot forgot to put the gear down!!
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If you think a 200hp + radial engine can be stopped by its wooden prop tips hitting the runway, think again. The only way it could have stopped (other than running out of fuel or siezing up - both highly unlikely) is the pilot switching off the mags.

If it had been under power the blades would have sheared off near the roots in a shower of broken wood, leaving twisted, torn, delaminated wooden stumps where each blade had been. Like our Yak had when one of our group (not me!) did just that with the engine running but throttle closed (so only developing a fraction of its 360hp and with RPM low).
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Originally Posted by Shaggy Sheep Driver
If you think a 200hp + radial engine can be stopped by its wooden prop tips hitting the runway, think again. The only way it could have stopped (other than running out of fuel or siezing up - both highly unlikely) is the pilot switching off the mags.

If it had been under power the blades would have sheared off near the roots in a shower of broken wood, leaving twisted, torn, delaminated wooden stumps where each blade had been. Like our Yak had when one of our group (not me!) did just that with the engine running but throttle closed (so only developing a fraction of its 360hp and with RPM low).
I think you'll find the traditional Yak 2 bladed props are rather less robust than the modern 3 blade item on the front of that Wok - and even then, they vary.

Years ago, we had a group member taxi the 52 across the PAPI stands - shredded the stand, the end of the prop was shattered but the rest was substantially intact - and that from an engine under some degree of power, not at idle.

I've also been sitting in the front seat of an Extra 300 when it suffered a gear collapse on landing, and experienced the sensation - engine at idle power, very similar damage to the prop in that photo. The engine stopped of its own accord on that occasion as well.
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If you think a 200hp + radial engine can be stopped by its wooden prop tips hitting the runway, think again. The only way it could have stopped (other than running out of fuel or siezing up - both highly unlikely) is the pilot switching off the mags.
Yeah, if it were developing 200+ HP at the time it hit, the blades would be nubs befor the engine would stop. But an idling engine will take out each blade in succession, as it comes to a stop.
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I've also been sitting in the front seat of an Extra 300 when it suffered a gear collapse on landing, and experienced the sensation - engine at idle power, very similar damage to the prop in that photo. The engine stopped of its own accord on that occasion as well.
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